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Subject: Re: MY LESSON Re: PLONK? Re: REQUESTING VID (Raven)
Date: 25 Jun 2004 06:21:07 -0500
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In article <hhvmd0thfad8v49kgo46qr6tgd0m17hkb0@4ax.com>,
<raven@ravenia.rv> wrote:
> On 24 Jun 2004 19:06:25 -0500, "::Y-Not::" <$6+-Y-Not@here.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <msfld0tobr51p5eja08tpt5ralidjtagi0@4ax.com>, Condoleezza
> ><rice-babe@loonie-home.gov> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 01:23:27 GMT, raven@ravenia.rv wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 14:41:13 +0200, Condoleezza
> >> ><rice@loonie-center.gov> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 04:05:45 GMT, raven@ravenia.rv wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>Please friends
> >> >>>Raven
> >> >>
> >> >>Another asshole smearing his request all over the usenet, showing us
> >> >>by doing so his big importance.
> >> >>
> >> >>*PLONK*
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >message is a request and just that.
> >> >I understand that not intelligent people like you use to attack
> >> >instead use a regular comunication. But you are very angry with the
> >> >world I guess, poor PLONK.
> >> >And as anybody else I have the right to make a request, you like it or
> >> >group by group and not all at the same time. Is that your anger? That
> >> >In fact my request was for the big ones like apo, Ynot, anonymous and
> >> >the others. Who are you Plonk anyway? Poor Plonk, poor, poor Plonkie.
> >> >
> >> >only messages of the posters I respect and have education.
> >> >
> >> >Raven (just another one)
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes, it was a rude answer and it was meant this way.
> >> Usually I consider myself to be helpful and nice, but only to people
> >> who are nice and polite too.
> >>
> >> Your request was neither nice nor polite. In addition to what Y-Not
> >>
> >> 1. You did not crosspost, but it comes close. There are a lot
> >> databases to track your name or your message-subject. For this reason
> >> I usually use different nicknames, depending on the groups I post to.
> >> Usually I post teen-stuff, maybe you are not looking in these groups.
> >> Here is a citation from a message Y-Not made in a similar case:
> >>
> >> "And it's bad, too. All anyone has to do to find *all* the newsgroups
> >> you posted in, is to search the Google newsgroups database for your
> >> your nic. Spammers, Trolls and other undesirables love that. There are
> >> other searchable newsgroups databases."
> >>
> >> 2. A short google-groups-search shows, that you are around for more
> >> than a year. During this time you have obviously not read many
> >> text-messages. That IS stupid, because they contain alot of helpful
> >> information as well as information of what behaviour is acceptable.
> >> Another citation from Y-Not's text:
> >>
> >> "If you thought that we all check these particular newsgroups (we
> >> do), why would you need to post your [snipped] question, redundantly,
> >> in so many of them, if not but to express your ego by spreading
> >> yourself allover the newsgroups?"
> >>
> >> That was exactly the reason to make me ranting. Posting a request to
> >> many groups only shows to others that you are greedy and YOU want
> >> something. That's usually not a promising strategy to get something
> >> (but angry answers). There is absolutely no need to post a message
> >> that often, as most of the posters are aware of on-topic-groups.
> >>
> >> 3. If you don't want your messages archived by Google, the
> >> message-header must contain a 'X-archive: no' entry.
> >
> >X-No-Archive: yes
> >
> >> Look in the
> >> groups-settings of your newsreader to do so. This has also been
> >> discussed often. You really should read more text-messages.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I see that you have been reading my posts. :-)
> >
> >The person for whom that was originally posted, has, with some work,
> >become a valuable member of your society. Part of the process that made
> >it happen, was forgiveness. That would be useful now.
> >Raven has had his lesson. He knows what should and should not be done.
> >Now is the time for healing.
> >
> >
> >Take care,
> >
> >
> >Y Not
> >
> >
> > "Opening the mind can open the heart.
> > Opening the heart can open the mind."
>
>
> If your first reply were that, Condoleeza, things could have been
> better. It sounds logical all that you write and I can accept it but
> with that attitude.
> statementes for next requests.
>
> About you Ynot thanks as usual for your helpfull and kind words.
>
> Your friend
> Raven (just another one)
Raven,
Happy is good. Sometimes we forget that. Sharing our happiness, makes
it grow into love. But, like everything else that is good, it needs
some effort to make it work. We are all learning, all the time, how to
do this. Sometimes we don't do it well, and sometimes we do it very
well. All that really matters, is that we understand this, forgive
others when they need it, and try to do better ourselves.
I live to help others to help themselves. Shouldn't we all be doing
some of that?
Take care,
Y Not
"I help, therefore I am. I think..."
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