In article <56jsn19p0qbuv438j37rioaec8ngdaeacu@4ax.com>,
<MichaellikeGod@heaven> wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:01:23 -0500, "::Y-Not::" <+10$-Y-Not@here.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> >> >
> >> >> P.S. These are the views of God and not of my own.
> >> >
>
> >
> >What does "inspire" mean, and which authority says that it is to be
> >applied to the Bible?
> >
> >As an artist, I'm inspired by many things I see, to create my art.
> >The tree that inspires me to sculpt my vision of it, does NOT sculpt it
> >for me. It is MY creation, that it's physical aspects MOTIVATED me to
> >exercise my artistic ability. That creation is unique. My next
> >rendition of that same tree, will necessarily be different, because I
> >would then be a different person, so my vision would be different, even
> >if I had the same inspiration.
> >"Inspire" means to motivate someone to do something, not do it for
> >someone, or put words in their hands. The Bible is clearly created by
> >Man, because God wouldn't have put so many mistakes in it. For example,
> >the Gospels disagree on when Jesus entered Jerusalem. Was it just
> >before Passover, or not? The Bible is full of similar inconsistencies
> >and contradictions, that a perfect God would not himself create.
> >
> >Humans are created with the need to recognize something higher then
> >themselves. True atheism isn't possible. Humans have great difficulty
> >with worshiping ah, nothing. God is supposed to be invisible, so what
> >do we worship? We NEED something, so we make idols to worship. We have
> >an image of a man dying of torture, to be an object on which we can
> >focus our worship, and statues of his mother, for an extra focus. And
> >as if that isn't enough, we worship a book that is supposed to have
> >been written by God, that clearly isn't, and we try to redefine
> >"inspire", to prove that God wrote it.
> >
> >Aren't the teachings enough to bring us close to God? Do we really have
> >to worship other THINGS, to make that happen? Isn't there a Commandment
> >against worshiping idols? Monotheism is against human nature. We need
> >to be strong in it's precepts, to keep it pure. The Bible is NOT God.
> >it is about God, as experienced by imperfect human beings, and should
> >be venerated for the very real wisdom it contains, but NOT worshiped AS
> >God, or be worshipped as his EXACT word. Because it can't be so.
> >
> >I suggest you study the history of the evolution (yes, that's right!)
> >of the Bible, before you make proclamations about it's origins.
> >Pay particular attention to the role that Saint Nicholas played in it's
> >"creation".
> >
> >
> >Take care,
> >
> >
> >Y Not
> >
> >
> >PS.
> >You cannot prove anything external to the Bible, with the Bible.
> >Well, except that it hurts when you hit someone over the head with it.
> >Also, do you know what is meant by alpha and omega, and what those
> >words really mean, and WHY they were chosen to illustrate the point?
> >Even if you know, be careful how you answer, because it opens a door to
> >something you might not want to deal with. But if you DO answer, do so
> >with all parts of the question. Nothing less will be accepted.
> >
> >PPS to all:
> >Hey guys, please no coaching. Let the person to whom I replied, answer
> >of his own, if he chooses. This is for HIS benefit, not yours.
>
> The New Merriam-Webster Distionary
> inspire
> 1. INHALE
> 2. to influence, move, or guide by divine or supernatural inspiration
> 3. exert an animating, enlivening, or exalting influence upon
> 4. AFFECT
> 5. to communicate to an agent supernaturally:CREATE
> 6. to bring about:INCITE
> 7. to spread by indirect means
>
> There are no mistakes in the Bible. There are many interpretations.
>
> Jesus entered Bethany on Palm Sunday.
> Jesus went to Bethany a village on the south-eastern slope of the
> Mount of Olives, about 2 miles east of Jerusalem. Jerusalem is the
> city, Bethany is a village of Jerusalem.
> The evening of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, Jesus is in the city of
> Jerusalem.
>
> NIV Interpretation
> Matthew 21:1
> As they approached Jerusalem and came to Bethphage on the Mount of
> Olives, Jesus sent two disciples,(Palm Sunday)
>
> Mark 11:1
> As they approached Jerusalem and came to Bethphage and Bethany at the
> Mount of Olives, Jesus sent two of his disciples, (Palm Sunday)
>
> Luke 19:41
> As he approached Jerusalem and saw the city, he wept over it. (After
> Palm Sunday)
>
> John 12:12
> The next day the great crowd that had come for the Feast heard that
> Jesus was on his way to Jerusalem. (Palm Sunday)
>
> All other interpretations use different words to describe the events
> but the same context.
>
> Catholicism is of the Roman Catholic church. It is dead to idolize
> anything resembling the Mother Mary or Jesus Christ. The Catholics
> worship Mother Mary as being a devine being of which is dead worship.
> They proclaim that a man like the Pope or Priest can forgive sins, but
> in reality they cannot. Only God can forgive sins through Jesus
> Christ. We do not know what Jesus Christ looks like, so we worshp by
> faith. We are not to worship an idol resembling Jesus Christ and we
> are not to worship the cross which is a piece of wood. You worship
> God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit by faith.
>
> John 20:29
> Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed;
> blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.
>
> Romans 1:22-23
> Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the
> glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and
> birds and animals and reptiles.
>
> John 4:24
> God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.
>
> Nicolas
> THE VICTORY OF THE PEOPLE, A PROSELYTE OF ANTIOCH, ONE OF THE SEVEN
> DEACONS (Acts 6:5).
>
> There is no other Saint Nicholas in the Bible or God's Word. If this
> saint entered sainthood by the Roman Catholic church, he is just a
> sinner like you and I.
>
I don't have too much time to address this right now, but here are some
notes:
You still don't understand "inspire", even though you read the
dictionary.
The person now known as Saint Nicholas, was a member of the "committee"
that made the Bible mostly as it now is, somewhere at around 300AD I
think, but I forget the date, and I don't feel like looking it up. This
group chose which, among many religious works that existed at the time,
in MANY versions, would be included in the Bible, and in what order. In
effect, they MADE the Bible. And being a committee, they sort of got
confused a little, and your attempt to reconcile the discrepancies that
caused, won't change what's there.
What's most interesting about this situation, and what Saint Nicholas
is famous for in it, was his tie breaking (and possibly nose breaking)
vote on the Divinity of Jesus. Until then, opinions had been divided on
whether Jesus was divine, as God, or just a prophet and messiah. a son
of God. He cast the mist influential vote, after he got out of jail, so
from then on, Jesus was officially divine, at least with some people.
Ah, this could be why Nicholas was later sainted. A reward? :-)
By the way, he was also famous for being very generous. You know, like
in gift giving? :-)
You haven't answered the alpha and omega question. I'm still waiting.
Do you know the Bible or NOT?
More questions:
In Genesis, what does the word "Nephalim" mean? The roman spelling is
variable.
What was the real name of Jesus? And why was it especially significant,
and then caused quite a lot of disappointment?
Y Not
"Those who know, know who knows."
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