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In article <ccarn11rcrtra1stpqfhu7i5apaqujtl7g@4ax.com>,
<likeGod@heaven> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:34:50 -0800, ++TedAlan++
> <budgetyellowsnow@cdc.gov.notreally> wrote:
>
> >In article <8mron1tfgtpujudlgdhfjq8vcqdnvn1s26@4ax.com>, boys@rough
> >wrote:
> >
> >> P.S. These are the views of God and not of my own.
> >
> >You are as much a blasphemer as you are an idiot.
> >
> >Human beings, whether ultimately created by an intelligent designer
> Genesis 2:7
> the Lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed
> into his nostrils the breath of life and the man became a living
> being.
> or
> >not, crave sex because they are genetically designed to do so.
> >
> >The rounded shapes of the buttocks and breasts, pressed together to form
> >the illusion of a line down the center between them (cleavage), form an
> >image that is known as a primal archetype, or icon. This image, as well
> >as that of flushed red cheeks of the face, full pressed lips, large,
> >round eyes placed a certain distance apart in proportion to the size of
> >the skull, and indeed flaring large nostrils to an extent in some, form
> >the basis of most sexual attraction at the most fundamental level.
>
> >These features are present on the bossom and buttocks of a woman and the
> >full, rounded buttocks of boys and girls who have residual baby fat or
> >who have exercised their "glutes" through dance or gymnastics.
> >
> >The phallus is also rounded at the end and has a cleft along the bottom
> >of the glans which is also aesthetically pleasing the to eye. Even the
> >most hetero of men can appreciate the image of his own penis.
> >
> >The puritanical, patriarchal rants of Jewish sheep herders from 2000+
> >years ago as they struggled to eek out a nomadic existence while
> >transmigrating the ancient deserts of the Middle East are no basis for a
> >modern, just, ethical society. They had no time for juries and trials.
> >They had no scholars who were able to provide counsel for the defense of
> >someone accused of adultery, witchcraft, murder, etc. They dispatched
> >one another with great prejudice and acrimony while they fleet-footed
> >about looking for people to trade cattle, trinkets and daughters with.
> >
> >God did not write your bible. Men did.
> Who is blaspheming God here? Me or you?
>
> It is not my bible but God's Word or God's Bible. The patriarchs,
> authors, and apostles were inspired by the Holy Spirit to write God's
> Word. Therefore, it is God's Word because the Holy Spirit and God are
> One.
>
> Proverbs 30:5-6
> "Every Word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take
> refuge in him. Do not add to his words, or he will rebuke you and
> prove you a liar.
>
> Extremely flawed men with
> >serious sexual hang-ups.
> Can you prove the patriarchs, authors, or apostles had serious sexual
> hang-ups by God or His Word? Who do you worship?
>
> The days when waving a book around and getting
> >everyone to agree that it's God's word are dead and gone.
> >
> Another blasphemy. God is eternal to eternal; the beginning and the
> end, the alpha and the omega.
>
> Revelation 1:8
> "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who
> was, and who is to come, the Almighty."
>
> >None of this is to say that there can be no morality, no civility, and
> >no ethics. Indeed, it is one of the great challenges of our time to
> >arrive at some kind of general, multicultural consensus on the moral and
> >ethical basis of our legal system.
> >
> Psalms 49:13-14
> This is the fate of those who trust in themselves, and of their
> followers, who approve their sayings. Like sheep they are destined for
> the grave, and death will feed on them. The upright will rule over
> them in the morning; their forms will decay in the grave, far from
> their princely mansions.
>
> >Only through understanding the reasons why we "lust" for others can we
> >come to grips with it and control it. No one should victimize another
> >for the sake of fulfilling their personal fantasies. Neither should
> >anyone deprive another of sexual pleasure based on their outdated,
> >unreasonable, neurotic hang-ups about sex and its purpose. That too, is
> >a perversion. That too, is sexual abuse.
> >
> Relying on science, psychology, or medical advances to control lust or
> other learned behaviors will not prevail. I have proven lust to be a
> behavior not tolerated by the living God through His Word that is
> Truth. This was not about sex but lust. Do not change the subject.
>
> Boio Hoo, you were offended. You are inane.
> >
What does "inspire" mean, and which authority says that it is to be
applied to the Bible?
As an artist, I'm inspired by many things I see, to create my art.
The tree that inspires me to sculpt my vision of it, does NOT sculpt it
for me. It is MY creation, that it's physical aspects MOTIVATED me to
exercise my artistic ability. That creation is unique. My next
rendition of that same tree, will necessarily be different, because I
would then be a different person, so my vision would be different, even
if I had the same inspiration.
"Inspire" means to motivate someone to do something, not do it for
someone, or put words in their hands. The Bible is clearly created by
Man, because God wouldn't have put so many mistakes in it. For example,
the Gospels disagree on when Jesus entered Jerusalem. Was it just
before Passover, or not? The Bible is full of similar inconsistencies
and contradictions, that a perfect God would not himself create.
Humans are created with the need to recognize something higher then
themselves. True atheism isn't possible. Humans have great difficulty
with worshiping ah, nothing. God is supposed to be invisible, so what
do we worship? We NEED something, so we make idols to worship. We have
an image of a man dying of torture, to be an object on which we can
focus our worship, and statues of his mother, for an extra focus. And
as if that isn't enough, we worship a book that is supposed to have
been written by God, that clearly isn't, and we try to redefine
"inspire", to prove that God wrote it.
Aren't the teachings enough to bring us close to God? Do we really have
to worship other THINGS, to make that happen? Isn't there a Commandment
against worshiping idols? Monotheism is against human nature. We need
to be strong in it's precepts, to keep it pure. The Bible is NOT God.
it is about God, as experienced by imperfect human beings, and should
be venerated for the very real wisdom it contains, but NOT worshiped AS
God, or be worshipped as his EXACT word. Because it can't be so.
I suggest you study the history of the evolution (yes, that's right!)
of the Bible, before you make proclamations about it's origins.
Pay particular attention to the role that Saint Nicholas played in it's
"creation".
Take care,
Y Not
PS.
You cannot prove anything external to the Bible, with the Bible.
Well, except that it hurts when you hit someone over the head with it.
Also, do you know what is meant by alpha and omega, and what those
words really mean, and WHY they were chosen to illustrate the point?
Even if you know, be careful how you answer, because it opens a door to
something you might not want to deal with. But if you DO answer, do so
with all parts of the question. Nothing less will be accepted.
PPS to all:
Hey guys, please no coaching. Let the person to whom I replied, answer
of his own, if he chooses. This is for HIS benefit, not yours.
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