| Re: Ping apoapo, re K99 Roland |
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| Daisy (Daisy@ThePond.com) |
2005/08/06 13:45 |
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On Sat, 6 Aug 2005 01:32:01 -0700, Y-Not:: wrote
(in article <060820050430548588%$9+-Y-Not@here.com>):
> In article <0001HW.BF199FC00019A402F0284550@news.easynews.com>, Daisy
> <Daisy@ThePond.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 14:35:03 -0700, Y-Not:: wrote
>> (in article <050820051733573522%$9+-Y-Not@here.com>):
>>
>>> In article <1123233672_493@spool1-east.superfeed.net>, Billy
>>> <Billy269@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My server has pegas going back two months, and I don't see any posting for
>>>> K99 Roland part 2. Has newsfeeds f***ed up again? Or is this referring to
>>>> the distant past?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Billy
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> KH is absolutely right. Apoapo is posting with (large) file attachment
>>> sizes that Newsfeeds won't allow onto it's servers. If you want to see
>>> and download his posts, and you may have missed more than one movie,
>>> you NEED to use another server.
>>>
>>> It's possible that PM may repost it in another group, with smaller
>>> parts. He sometimes does that. Maybe he's being a little too generous,
>>> if it encourages people to continue to use bad servers. Well, we all
>>> have our individual ways of helping people.
>>>
>>> How many movies have you never known were being posted, because your
>>> server won't show them to you? When we advise you to get a different
>>> server, we have good reasons to tell you that!
>>>
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>>
>>>
>>> Y Not
>>>
>>>
>>> "Those who know, know who knows."
>>
>> Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm sure you will :-)...) but isn't another
>> advantage of small file sizes that they are more available to those who
>> have
>> only dial-up?
>>
>> Daffy
>>
>
> OK, the correction:
> (you ASKED for it)
>
> Small file sizes don't, in themselves, make for more availability with
> dial-up, with good servers. There is no logical advantage here.
> BUT, smaller files sizes are very useful for dial-up users, when they
> have connection problems, and need to frequently retry failed
> downloads. It would result in more efficient use of the download time,
> to re-download smaller part sizes, than having to waste time and
> bandwidth to download bigger size files that have only a small piece
> missing. Yes, they can use the par files, but not all posters provide
> them, and there aren't always enough of them for people with connection
> or server problems.
>
> People with dial-up connections often have only one phone line, and
> have family members who want to use that line for actual voice
> communication. Waiting for a large part to finish downloading, to use
> the phone, isn't always practical.
>
> In some countries, the phone service is completely metered. They pay by
> the minute for every call, and this isn't even part of what they have
> to pay their ISP and their NSP. It COSTS to download. For them,
> efficiency pays!
>
> Is this the correction you asked for? And why didn't you think of this
> yourself? You could have, if you had made the effort. In spite of how
> you often appear, you aren't stupid. Please apply yourself more.
>
>
> Y Not
>
>
> PS.
> PM, I wasn't being critical of you. I was just trying to give Billy a
> little extra motivation. :-)
> It's unreasonable to depend on the generosity of reposters, as it's
> usually not their primary activity. If they need to cut back, that will
> be the first activity to go.
> I used to use Newsfeeds, so I DO know what I'm ranting about. :-(
> While no NSP is perfect, I prefer to post through Newscene because they
> are the least responsive to complaints about posters, have payment
> options other than automatic billing of credit cards, and they don't
> add junk to the headers of posts.
Thanks!
I think you are pointing out that my use of the word 'available' was a bit
sloppy. Of course, the availability of a given file is less a matter of size
(except in the case you point out of size limitations) than it is other
factors.
I was commenting on the flexibility in scheduling downloads that dial-up may
(note the word 'may') necessitate or enable (putting the phone to other use
as you point out).
Does it need to be pointed out that a 350MB (in total) movie is 350MB whether
it comes 500K at a time or 750K at a time? Perhaps.
Thanks for clarifying. I did ask for it, and your remarks were
helpful....right up to the end of course.
At that point you lapse into one of your typical gratuitous slanders (in
effect calling me stupid) and your usual condescending stance (suggesting I
try to meet some standard you are imposing as self-appointed arbiter of the
Usenet. Just a sign or your own insecurity (this ongoing need to be
'right') as I (and numerous others) have pointed out in the past.
This is a manifestation of your ego-clinging. The opposite of what a
follower of the Buddhist path would do. Such a person would abandon this
need to be right and 'above it all'. Hence my previous remarks on this
subject. For you to suggest (as you did) that somehow my remarks disparaged
Buddhism is just silly and you know it...just lashing out; that;s all that
was.
In any case, the clinging leads to suffering. Give yourself a break.
Dazy
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