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Subject: Re: Ping: Nicolas
From: ynot hater <ynot@hater.fu>
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"::Y-Not::" <$3+-Y-Not@here.com> wrote in news:130520040228321259%$3+-Y-
Not@here.com:
> And I salute your saluting!
> And not just because you and I are supposed to be doing repulsive
> things to each other. I *do* care what you think. Actually, I care what
> everyone thinks, but maybe we shouldn't tell them that. :-)
>
> Nicolas and Flowerchild have discussed these issues wisely and fairly,
> even though this thread didn't originate that way.
> I agree, in general, with what they say, but with the added comment
> that child forced labor, be it physically forced or economically
> forced, is against the moral precepts and laws of most modern
> societies.
>
> A friend who has seen this movie described it to me, yesterday.
> Fair is fair:
> Even though I disagree with the *way* he said it, I would have to be,
> to a large extent, in agreement with I_object in this thread.
>
> There are three kinds of rape. Some, or all of them can, be part of the
> same situation.
> 1. Physically forced sex.
> 2. Legal rape, such as in the applied age of consent laws.
> 3. Moral rape. Sex that a person feels required to do, that would
> otherwise not be freely chosen.
> Adult prostitution is an indeterminate situation.
>
> The boy didn't freely choose to have fun here. I'm horrified by what
> happened to him, as I suspect all of you would be if you had seen the
> movie.
> But I'm still not against it's posting. Some of the reasons I have for
> this view have already been posted by me and others here. There are
> other reasons. We *need* to have videos like this to be posted. We need
> to be reminded of the bad side of BL society. We need to have these
> issued to be raised. What we don't have before us, we can conveniently
> not think about, such as the very real harm that can happen to the
> children in what some of us view for our pleasure. What we don't see,
> we can't know about. What we don't know about, we can't try to help
> stop or prevent the abuse that happens in these situations.
> Don't let his suffering go to waste. Posting won't make it worse for
> him, but it may help us to be more aware of his and other's suffering,
> so we can more fully appreciate these problems, and maybe even be moved
> to do something about it.
>
> Here's an opinion:
> (OK, who didn't see this coming?)
> Why are we fighting about what we mostly agree about? Isn't this kind
> of stupid of us? Do we really need to show everyone how we can't get
> along? Aren't there enough people already who wish us dead, that we
> need to open the door to more of them?
>
>
> Take care all,
>
>
> Y Not
>
>
> "Anger denies reason.
> Love doesn't need one."
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!!! death to ynot!!!
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