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From: "darvon" <none@nowhere.net>
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Subject: Re: PING Darvon
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 23:07:54 -0400
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> > > :>[snip]
> > > :>
> > > :>
> > > :>I don't care for Agent - had it and didn't like it I still have it
and a
> > > :>crack.
>
> Then try Xnews. It's free, and easy to use. ANYTHING is better than OE,
> especially if you care at all about security.
I will look at it and make a consideration. It is still not
clear to me why OE is a security risk?
>
[snip]
>
>
> The differences between them are that Easynews has a web server with a
> month's retention, in addition to their usual Usenet service. Newscene
> doesn't, but they allow you pay by the block, such as 3 months or 6
> months, that doesn't auto-renew, with significant discounts, also
> allowing for alternate methods of payment. Easynews has a daily article
> posting limit, that Newscene doesn't. I post about 500 to 800 messages
> a day.
>
>
> Here is another option:
> Pay $10 for 25GB, with no time limit, with Astraweb, so you can
> download from them just the files that Giganews refuses to offer to
> you.
Thank you for that info...
>
> > [snip]
> >
> Ah, haven't you noticed that there aren't too many "simple" message
> threads in these groups? :-)
Point taken... :)
>
> > >
> > > Take care, and see ya.
> > >
> > > KH NP-b54
> > >
> > > "Artificial Intelligence will never be
> > > a match for natural stupidity."
> > > (Stolen)
> >
> > Boy, someone got that right....!!!
> >
>
> KH's current tag line sometimes (unfortunately) applies to himself,
> which can happen to all of us on occasion, but most times it doesn't.
> This is one of the times it doesn't. Does it apply to someone else
> here? Please help us think it isn't you.
Play nice now...;)
>
> Some perspective, and security:
> About two years ago, Giganews decided to switch gears and concentrate
> on being primarily an ISP subcontractor. They then started dropping
> some groups and restricting posting in others, to appease their major
> customers. They also decided to voluntarily work with the LEAs and the
> RIAA, again to please their major customers. Because of this, I never
> download from Giganews, or post through them, any files that could be
> against US law, or even anything I wouldn't want the whole world to
> know about, nor would I recommend that anyone else to that.
> I use Giganews only as a document archive, due to their extremely long
> retention in the text groups.
> I have more than one account with them, but I don't pay. They were
> given to me by "someone" with connections. :-)
At long last - some substantive information. I was not aware
of any of the aforementioned. It would seem, on this info alone,
it is time for a change of servers. Thank you.
>
> In this anarchistic environment, people often resent those who care
> enough to help them. This is self-destructive, and a detriment to this
> society, because it causes people who have the knowledge, and who are
> willing to help people with it, to stop helping. In light of all this,
> please reconsider your current attitude toward being helped.
I really didn't intend to show attitude. To be criticized without any
definitive reasons other than "you should" and to be called names,
well - no attitude intended...
>You don't have to accept the help that would be for your benefit, but you
don't
> have to publicly reject it.
You offered some real information and were quite
polite without benefit of anything negative - that kind
of help is always welcomed by me (and most anyone)
> We can learn from ALL we experience, if we are open to learning. I'm
> always learning, and I hope you are too.
Yes - very much so - in all areas of life. --
Thank you for some very good information that I will
not only consider but act upon.
D~
>
>
> Take care,
>
>
> Y Not
>
>
> "If we don't help others,
> will there be anyone to help us when we ask?"
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