On 9 May 2004 18:00:04 -0500, while searchin, lurkin, and jerkin,
gollum crawled out of his hole and spewed the following crap:
>In article <409e0574$1_4@127.0.0.1>, I_object <X@126.0.0.1:4300> wrote:
>
>> "::Y-Not::" <$2+-Y-Not@here.com> wrote:
>> >In article <409d648b$1_4@127.0.0.1>, I_object <X@126.0.0.1:4299> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Such a Thoth/1.7.2 is that a good newsreader?
>> >> Anyway, any succes in your efforts to achieve the big goal?
>> >
>> >There are only two major newsreaders for the Macintosh computer
>> >platform, Thoth and Hogwasher. Hogwasher is a little easier to learn,
>> >but has less options, and there is no autoposter for it. Thoth can be
>> >very complicated to set up, but has the most advanced features, and has
>> >many autoposters written for it.
>> >There is a poster, who hasn't posted much in the past year due to a
>> >developing family, who was being persecuted by someone who assumed that
>> >all Thoth users are the same person. Are you that someone?
>> >This is ridiculous. We are not the same. The Macintosh newsgroups are
>> >full of Thoth posters who are actually really truthfully different
>> >people. And nicer and more considerate than most of the people in
>> >*these* newsgroups. And, on average, much more intelligent.
>> >Thoth is no longer under development. The developer couldn't make a
>> >living from his shareware programs that enable people to download
>> >pirated software, because his software was pirated too much.
>> >I wasn't going to post here again, but the irony of the Thoth issue
>> >puts *you* in perspective.
>> >
>> >YOUR opposition to the requested movie, because of the extra attention
>> >it received because of it, contributed to the motivation to post it.
>> >How ironic!
>> >People *hate* being told what to do, and will even do just the opposite
>> >to spite you.
>> >
>> >What "big goal"? I don't know of any single "big goal" that anyone has
>> >ever had in these newsgroups, or would be able to accomplish one if he
>> >had an extra big one lying around, ready to be "achieved".
>>
>> You've bragging along aloud about the the many goals you have in *the groups*.
>> YOU YOURSELF once mentioned *the big one*! You know already that I indeed did
>> read many of your posts.
>
>The "big one" was only mentioned when discussing with and about Lookin.
>He once said he owed me a "big one", meaning a favor, for defending him
>against impersonation. I've been joking about it ever since.
>Someday you might actually get your facts straight.
>But you don't want to.
>
>> >I haven't yet seen your other recent post to me. Based on this one, I'm
>> >not expecting much.
>>
>> Now it's getting funny! Apart from replies to FriendLee (who posts from the
>> same computer as you do!) there hasn't been any other recent post from me to
>> you. It's you 'putting me in perspective' and doing the mixing up!
>
>You posted to me, assuming that I was "FriendlLee".
>Please stuff your own mixups down your own throat.
>
>> You accuse me of disrupting this newsgroup. But you yourself has been accused
>> many times of disrupting many newsgroups. You've been called a liar, an
>> untrustworthy *****, a nutcase, a troll and much and much more!
>
>That I have a Macintosh, is no different than millions of other
>Macintosh users. And I have more than one I post from. So, where did
>you keep your brain when you said that two people who live in different
>parts of the world use the *same* computer?
>Are you now going to accuse me of being Lomis, Puck, Sorce Error,
>BoyChosen, and I don't remember the many others, who also post using
>Macs and Mac software? Am I *all* the posters in the Mac groups? Some
>use the program called "Hogwasher". I can use it too if I wish.
>Your accusiations are so stupid, so filled with lies, and so intended
>to promote discored, that you must be a Troll trainee.
>
>What I have been accused of by Trolls has no relation to what you are
>doing here, except that now you have drawn the notice of the Trolls by
>it. And by accusing someone else of being me, you have drawn the Trolls
>to HIM, who is now going to suffer for it. You are disgusting, and no
>friend to anyone. If fact, by your own activities and lies, and that
>you admit to using many nics to avoid the consequences of your actions,
>and are looking more like a Troll every day.
>
>> Actualy, over the years (apart from recently in this group) we have been in
>> the
>> same thread just once. That was months ago and we were 'on the same side'
>> then.
>> I always thought of you as somebody who thinks far to highly about himself,
>> but
>> I always felt rather sympathetic about you.
>>
>> Now this nasty Y-Not/FriendLee game you play makes me wonder if I should
>> aproach HIM to look at the headers!? HE knows more about this kind of stuff
>> then I do.
>
>There can be no "same side" when you hide behind other nics, especially
>when I don't believe a bit of what you say.
>
>Anybody knows "more about this kind of stuff" than *you* do, or you
>would have already looked at our respective headers before making a
>complete fool of yourself.
>
>> If only HE knew about the pics I attached to this post being here in this
>> newsgroup and he'll be on your aka FriendLee's neck again. It's YOU that
>> started playing games again and it's me who's willing to play along!
>
>That's want you want, isn't it, that your buddies the Trolls start up
>the attacks again? So you can have your revenge on those who disagree
>with you. Then you are going to run away and hide under a new nic like
>the despicable coward you are.
>
>He is *not* my friend, and doesn't want to be.
>Your attachment is already known to the Trolls. They have said so in
>this newsgroup. YOU DELIBERATELY DREW THEM HERE.
>There *is* no "playing games again", except in your own delusional
>mind. YOU are causing this disruption, only you. I posted only to
>address the Thoth issue, other posts you ascribe to me that are not
>from me, are just your wish fulfilling fantasies.
>
>I'm posting this from a spare computer. My main Mac is still apart,
>waiting for more hardware rearranging and new (bigger) hard drives. I
>don't have any more time to mess with you, even if I felt like it.
>I don't intend to post again here.
>I warned people with words, by actions, and by example, about what
>happens when we oppose people like you and Trolls (may be the same),
>but some people will never learn. Now it starts all over again.
>And you're really happy about that, aren't you...
>
>
>Y Not
Is there something missing here?
>
>
>> >> "::FriendLee::" <+-Friend@Lee.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 7 May 2004 21:36:08 -0500, while searchin, lurkin, and jerkin,
>> >> >> gollum crawled out of his hole and spewed the following crap:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> On 7 May 2004 09:18:54 -0500, while searchin, lurkin, and jerkin,
>> >> >> >> gollum crawled out of his hole and spewed the following crap:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Since you couldn't keep your mouth shut I decided to become your
>> >> >> >> >friend!
>> >> >> >> >I won't leave the group alone and I won't leave you alone either.
>> >> >> >> >And that's your own fault!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> OK, but you'll be sorry like my other friend was. :)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Now that I have previewed the movie that you object to, I have to
>> >> >> >> wonder if your objections have been misplaced. I've seen more than a
>> >> >> >> few of these movies, and in a lot of them the boys don't seem
>> >> >> >> overjoyed to be there. However, in avseq1, the boys seem genuinely
>> >> >> >> happy, willing participants.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >In Japanese culture, and to a lesser extent, other Oriental cultures,
>> >> >> >it's traditional in a sexual situation that one participant do the
>> >> >> >"work", and the other participant remain passive to what is happening,
>> >> >> >even uninterested, especially when the participants are of unequal
>> >> >> >social status. They are *very* sensitive to what Westerners would call
>> >> >> >the social "pecking order".
>> >> >> >This may seem strange to many people, but we are *all* strange to
>> >> >> >strangers.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Is there a misunderstanding here?
>> >> >> >If you two are going to fight, maybe you could pick a more worthwhile
>> >> >> >reason?
>> >> >> >It's my understanding that you both have the same feelings against
>> >> >> >children being forced. You are more alike than you are different. You
>> >> >> >can build on that. If you feel like it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >FriendLee
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "We are them. They are us.
>> >> >> > Together all, we are the world."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi FriendLee:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I am not fighting. I simply object to one persons objections to this
>> >> >> film being posted here, as I would like the opportunity to see it and
>> >> >> object to the content, if I so choose, myself.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think you are right that I_Object and I object to child abuse.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think where we differ is that I object to poster and lurker abuse.
>> >> >> Several people (who probably haven't seen the film), have expressed a
>> >> >> desire to see the film posted against the objections of one person
>> >> >> (who has seen it). He called those supporting the posting "sick
>> >> >> son[s] of bitch[es]" for not being able to "see the difference with
>> >> >> other vids already posted here". In my case, I am a "sick son of a
>> >> >> bitch" because I can't see the difference between some videos that I
>> >> >> haven't seen.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think the group would be much more open to I_Object's objections if
>> >> >> he would refrain from hurling names and allegations at people who want
>> >> >> what he already has, which is the opportunity to see the film and
>> >> >> judge for themselves if it is objectionable.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That said, thanks for your comments, FriendLee. If you are not who
>> >> >> you look like you are, you do a real good job of looking like him. :)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >I can guess who you think I look like. He said he was ugly! Is *that*
>> >> >what you think of me? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Please
>> >> >point your oculars somewhere else.
>> >> >
>> >> >Are all who post with reason and intelligence (I try) going to be
>> >> >compared with HIM? I did change my nickname from my other post in
>> >> >another newsgroup, just so HE wouldn't be coming after me again. I left
>> >> >the door open for him, and got invaded. Bad idea.
>> >> >I think I understand what he did, and what he was doing, more than most
>> >> >of you. I said that in my other post, but I understand more now. I
>> >> >think he is gone. I think he planed on leaving months ago, and set up
>> >> >the situation that made people wish it. He deliberately destroyed his
>> >> >popularity to make his departure a relief, instead of painful. Of
>> >> >course, that was just one of his many "goals".
>> >> >I think he is making a BIG mistake, in assuming that other people will
>> >> >step forward and carry on his work, just as you are trying to do, in
>> >> >any really effective way.
>> >> >
>> >> >I posted the other post in the other newsgroup from my office PC, but
>> >> >from now on, I'll be using my Mac at home.
>> >> >
>> >> >I see what you are doing. You are posting to counterbalance I_Object's
>> >> >posts. You could have ignored him, as the kind of language he uses
>> >> >deserves, but instead, you post in opposition. Neither of you will
>> >> >convince each other to change his ways. All you will do is just make
>> >> >more trouble. Have you not learned anything at all from HIS sacrifice?
>> >> >HE showed you what can happen when you do this.
>> >> >Invisible is posting foolishly all over, to every Troll he can find. So
>> >> >are others. It looks like HE wasted his time with all of you. I hope
>> >> >he's not seeing this, and is having a well earned vacation from the
>> >> >newsgroups.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >FriendLee
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "We are them. They are us.
>> >> > Together all, we are the world."
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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