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In article <409e0574$1_4@127.0.0.1>, I_object <X@126.0.0.1:4300> wrote:
> "::Y-Not::" <$2+-Y-Not@here.com> wrote:
> >In article <409d648b$1_4@127.0.0.1>, I_object <X@126.0.0.1:4299> wrote:
> >
> >> Such a Thoth/1.7.2 is that a good newsreader?
> >> Anyway, any succes in your efforts to achieve the big goal?
> >
> >There are only two major newsreaders for the Macintosh computer
> >platform, Thoth and Hogwasher. Hogwasher is a little easier to learn,
> >but has less options, and there is no autoposter for it. Thoth can be
> >very complicated to set up, but has the most advanced features, and has
> >many autoposters written for it.
> >There is a poster, who hasn't posted much in the past year due to a
> >developing family, who was being persecuted by someone who assumed that
> >all Thoth users are the same person. Are you that someone?
> >This is ridiculous. We are not the same. The Macintosh newsgroups are
> >full of Thoth posters who are actually really truthfully different
> >people. And nicer and more considerate than most of the people in
> >*these* newsgroups. And, on average, much more intelligent.
> >Thoth is no longer under development. The developer couldn't make a
> >living from his shareware programs that enable people to download
> >pirated software, because his software was pirated too much.
> >I wasn't going to post here again, but the irony of the Thoth issue
> >puts *you* in perspective.
> >
> >YOUR opposition to the requested movie, because of the extra attention
> >it received because of it, contributed to the motivation to post it.
> >How ironic!
> >People *hate* being told what to do, and will even do just the opposite
> >to spite you.
> >
> >What "big goal"? I don't know of any single "big goal" that anyone has
> >ever had in these newsgroups, or would be able to accomplish one if he
> >had an extra big one lying around, ready to be "achieved".
>
> You've bragging along aloud about the the many goals you have in *the groups*.
> YOU YOURSELF once mentioned *the big one*! You know already that I indeed did
> read many of your posts.
The "big one" was only mentioned when discussing with and about Lookin.
He once said he owed me a "big one", meaning a favor, for defending him
against impersonation. I've been joking about it ever since.
Someday you might actually get your facts straight.
But you don't want to.
> >I haven't yet seen your other recent post to me. Based on this one, I'm
> >not expecting much.
>
> Now it's getting funny! Apart from replies to FriendLee (who posts from the
> same computer as you do!) there hasn't been any other recent post from me to
> you. It's you 'putting me in perspective' and doing the mixing up!
You posted to me, assuming that I was "FriendlLee".
Please stuff your own mixups down your own throat.
> You accuse me of disrupting this newsgroup. But you yourself has been accused
> many times of disrupting many newsgroups. You've been called a liar, an
> untrustworthy *****, a nutcase, a troll and much and much more!
That I have a Macintosh, is no different than millions of other
Macintosh users. And I have more than one I post from. So, where did
you keep your brain when you said that two people who live in different
parts of the world use the *same* computer?
Are you now going to accuse me of being Lomis, Puck, Sorce Error,
BoyChosen, and I don't remember the many others, who also post using
Macs and Mac software? Am I *all* the posters in the Mac groups? Some
use the program called "Hogwasher". I can use it too if I wish.
Your accusiations are so stupid, so filled with lies, and so intended
to promote discored, that you must be a Troll trainee.
What I have been accused of by Trolls has no relation to what you are
doing here, except that now you have drawn the notice of the Trolls by
it. And by accusing someone else of being me, you have drawn the Trolls
to HIM, who is now going to suffer for it. You are disgusting, and no
friend to anyone. If fact, by your own activities and lies, and that
you admit to using many nics to avoid the consequences of your actions,
and are looking more like a Troll every day.
> Actualy, over the years (apart from recently in this group) we have been in
> the
> same thread just once. That was months ago and we were 'on the same side'
> then.
> I always thought of you as somebody who thinks far to highly about himself,
> but
> I always felt rather sympathetic about you.
>
> Now this nasty Y-Not/FriendLee game you play makes me wonder if I should
> aproach HIM to look at the headers!? HE knows more about this kind of stuff
> then I do.
There can be no "same side" when you hide behind other nics, especially
when I don't believe a bit of what you say.
Anybody knows "more about this kind of stuff" than *you* do, or you
would have already looked at our respective headers before making a
complete fool of yourself.
> If only HE knew about the pics I attached to this post being here in this
> newsgroup and he'll be on your aka FriendLee's neck again. It's YOU that
> started playing games again and it's me who's willing to play along!
That's want you want, isn't it, that your buddies the Trolls start up
the attacks again? So you can have your revenge on those who disagree
with you. Then you are going to run away and hide under a new nic like
the despicable coward you are.
He is *not* my friend, and doesn't want to be.
Your attachment is already known to the Trolls. They have said so in
this newsgroup. YOU DELIBERATELY DREW THEM HERE.
There *is* no "playing games again", except in your own delusional
mind. YOU are causing this disruption, only you. I posted only to
address the Thoth issue, other posts you ascribe to me that are not
from me, are just your wish fulfilling fantasies.
I'm posting this from a spare computer. My main Mac is still apart,
waiting for more hardware rearranging and new (bigger) hard drives. I
don't have any more time to mess with you, even if I felt like it.
I don't intend to post again here.
I warned people with words, by actions, and by example, about what
happens when we oppose people like you and Trolls (may be the same),
but some people will never learn. Now it starts all over again.
And you're really happy about that, aren't you...
Y Not
> >> "::FriendLee::" <+-Friend@Lee.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 7 May 2004 21:36:08 -0500, while searchin, lurkin, and jerkin,
> >> >> gollum crawled out of his hole and spewed the following crap:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On 7 May 2004 09:18:54 -0500, while searchin, lurkin, and jerkin,
> >> >> >> gollum crawled out of his hole and spewed the following crap:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Since you couldn't keep your mouth shut I decided to become your
> >> >> >> >friend!
> >> >> >> >I won't leave the group alone and I won't leave you alone either.
> >> >> >> >And that's your own fault!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> OK, but you'll be sorry like my other friend was. :)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Now that I have previewed the movie that you object to, I have to
> >> >> >> wonder if your objections have been misplaced. I've seen more than a
> >> >> >> few of these movies, and in a lot of them the boys don't seem
> >> >> >> overjoyed to be there. However, in avseq1, the boys seem genuinely
> >> >> >> happy, willing participants.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >In Japanese culture, and to a lesser extent, other Oriental cultures,
> >> >> >it's traditional in a sexual situation that one participant do the
> >> >> >"work", and the other participant remain passive to what is happening,
> >> >> >even uninterested, especially when the participants are of unequal
> >> >> >social status. They are *very* sensitive to what Westerners would call
> >> >> >the social "pecking order".
> >> >> >This may seem strange to many people, but we are *all* strange to
> >> >> >strangers.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Is there a misunderstanding here?
> >> >> >If you two are going to fight, maybe you could pick a more worthwhile
> >> >> >reason?
> >> >> >It's my understanding that you both have the same feelings against
> >> >> >children being forced. You are more alike than you are different. You
> >> >> >can build on that. If you feel like it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >FriendLee
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "We are them. They are us.
> >> >> > Together all, we are the world."
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi FriendLee:
> >> >>
> >> >> I am not fighting. I simply object to one persons objections to this
> >> >> film being posted here, as I would like the opportunity to see it and
> >> >> object to the content, if I so choose, myself.
> >> >>
> >> >> I think you are right that I_Object and I object to child abuse.
> >> >>
> >> >> I think where we differ is that I object to poster and lurker abuse.
> >> >> Several people (who probably haven't seen the film), have expressed a
> >> >> desire to see the film posted against the objections of one person
> >> >> (who has seen it). He called those supporting the posting "sick
> >> >> son[s] of bitch[es]" for not being able to "see the difference with
> >> >> other vids already posted here". In my case, I am a "sick son of a
> >> >> bitch" because I can't see the difference between some videos that I
> >> >> haven't seen.
> >> >>
> >> >> I think the group would be much more open to I_Object's objections if
> >> >> he would refrain from hurling names and allegations at people who want
> >> >> what he already has, which is the opportunity to see the film and
> >> >> judge for themselves if it is objectionable.
> >> >>
> >> >> That said, thanks for your comments, FriendLee. If you are not who
> >> >> you look like you are, you do a real good job of looking like him. :)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >I can guess who you think I look like. He said he was ugly! Is *that*
> >> >what you think of me? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Please
> >> >point your oculars somewhere else.
> >> >
> >> >Are all who post with reason and intelligence (I try) going to be
> >> >compared with HIM? I did change my nickname from my other post in
> >> >another newsgroup, just so HE wouldn't be coming after me again. I left
> >> >the door open for him, and got invaded. Bad idea.
> >> >I think I understand what he did, and what he was doing, more than most
> >> >of you. I said that in my other post, but I understand more now. I
> >> >think he is gone. I think he planed on leaving months ago, and set up
> >> >the situation that made people wish it. He deliberately destroyed his
> >> >popularity to make his departure a relief, instead of painful. Of
> >> >course, that was just one of his many "goals".
> >> >I think he is making a BIG mistake, in assuming that other people will
> >> >step forward and carry on his work, just as you are trying to do, in
> >> >any really effective way.
> >> >
> >> >I posted the other post in the other newsgroup from my office PC, but
> >> >from now on, I'll be using my Mac at home.
> >> >
> >> >I see what you are doing. You are posting to counterbalance I_Object's
> >> >posts. You could have ignored him, as the kind of language he uses
> >> >deserves, but instead, you post in opposition. Neither of you will
> >> >convince each other to change his ways. All you will do is just make
> >> >more trouble. Have you not learned anything at all from HIS sacrifice?
> >> >HE showed you what can happen when you do this.
> >> >Invisible is posting foolishly all over, to every Troll he can find. So
> >> >are others. It looks like HE wasted his time with all of you. I hope
> >> >he's not seeing this, and is having a well earned vacation from the
> >> >newsgroups.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >FriendLee
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "We are them. They are us.
> >> > Together all, we are the world."
> >>
> >>
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