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On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 03:12:46 GMT, TheGratefulDead
<thegratefuldead@your.house> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 02:39:13 GMT, TheGratefulDead
>><thegratefuldead@your.house> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:51:13 GMT, TheGratefulDead
>>>><thegratefuldead@your.house> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 06:55:00 GMT, TheGratefulDead
>>>>>><thegratefuldead@your.house> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 05:41:24 GMT, TheGratefulDead
>>>>>>>><thegratefuldead@your.house> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 03:28:27 GMT, TheGratefulDead
>>>>>>>>>><thegratefuldead@your.house> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 02:01:32 GMT, TheGratefulDead
>>>>>>>>>>>><thegratefuldead@your.house> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 03:39:59 GMT, TheGratefulDead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>><thegratefuldead@your.house> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <Big Sniperoo>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, Tat was/is fighting lung cancer, you know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I know, I know, but I hated to discover that I gave money away under
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"those" circumstances. I felt tricked and hoaxed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>You were indeed, however, I had no control over the situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>No big deal but FWIW, I still feel that a full disclosure should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>made so that people are aware of the shameless trickery.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>If you want to make full disclosure, then make it. Like I said, I had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>no control of the situation, and besides that, I have lost my Usenet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>identity that I had for years. We all have suffered a loss in some way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I never said you were involved in the hoax, didn't even mean to imply
>>>>>>>>>>>>that. I have a pretty good idea of what happened, and why, but why
>>>>>>>>>>>>that means that you need to lose your nic is beyond me. Then again, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>have never been very bright.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Because noone would believe it's me. Then when I would say yes, it is me,
>>>>>>>>>>>then I would be asked to explain myself. Then I would tell them to get fucked.
>>>>>>>>>>>My real life personal problems is none of their business. So, it's best to
>>>>>>>>>>>leave it the way it is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I understand.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Kewl
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>FTR, I have tried to alert a couple of people, in a very roundabout
>>>>>>>>>>>>fashion, that all my not be as it seems, but it's hard to do without
>>>>>>>>>>>>coming right out and saying it, but now that you have given me
>>>>>>>>>>>>permission to do so, I will, at the proper time and place.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>That's fine with me, however, i'm not going to explain myself to anyone.
>>>>>>>>>>>In another group, Arch Stanton wanted me to explain myself and I more
>>>>>>>>>>>or less told him, if he didn't like it, he could lump it. I guess he didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>like it because I haven't heard from him since. That's all well and good.
>>>>>>>>>>>All he is is a screen name anyway, so fuck him.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Again, I understand. (That's a record, BTW), and that's why I am only
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Double kewl. <s>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>going to alert a couple of people.
>>>>>>>>>>I have pieced together that many of the camille ilk already know, and
>>>>>>>>>>that's no big deal to me.
>>>>>>>>>>Like you say, we are all just screen names, mostly.<s>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>No, I don't think that most of them know, unless Woodstock told them, and
>>>>>>>>>noone has challenged my negative posts in camille about spidey collecting
>>>>>>>>>PGP keys.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Way I see it, WS told Count Draculol, and the game was afoot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ummmm, you have lost me with this one. "game was afoot"??
>>>>>>>Are you saying they all were running from me?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No. If, as I know for a fact, a certain Wild bird told WS that what
>>>>>>was dead, wasn't, then if only stands to reason that WS told Drac, and
>>>>>>then Drac alerted other's.
>>>>>>It's hard to prove because they all are pretty big on PGP'ing stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>>Oh well, who gives a shit anyway.
>>>>
>>>>Agreed.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Let me know if and when you want the MP3's, and should you get the
>>>>>>>>>>>>chance, I wouldn't mind having that *Surrealistic Pillow.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>TIA
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>It seems that "surrealistic Pillow" was a casualty. I can't even find
>>>>>>>>>>>my vinyl record of it. Sorry!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Fucking story of my life.<s>
>>>>>>>>>>In any event, as this wasn't a "I'll trade you... for a copy of..."
>>>>>>>>>>type deal, whatever CD's I have are yours.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I'll let ya noe when i'm ready. I'm still working in the 50s and 60s groups.
>>>>>>>>>I appreciate the offer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>BTW, the wayward veggie, Aub, has just turned me onto a thing called
>>>>>>>>>>the .ogg format for music files.
>>>>>>>>>>You familiar with that?
>>>>>>>>>>Only works on .wav files, or something like them, and reduces the file
>>>>>>>>>>size by 1/3, without loss of quality.
>>>>>>>>>>Very Interesting.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yeah, that's Ogg Vorbis format. I don't know much about it, but I
>>>>>>>>>read that it's pretty good. You need a special player for those
>>>>>>>>>files, if i'm not mistaken. I need to do some more research on it.
>>>>>>>>>I think that the .ogg format will be the yEnc of music files. I can
>>>>>>>>>see the bitching in the groups now. <G>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Here's what I have found out in the last day since Aub upped it for
>>>>>>>>me:
>>>>>>>>The program, which I am posting for you, works by right clicking on
>>>>>>>>the fish box, and from there you can set it up how you want it.
>>>>>>>>It won't work if you rip an MP3 file, but, if you rip in .wav format,
>>>>>>>>and then drag and drop that file into the fish box, it automatically
>>>>>>>>converts the .wav file into an .ogg file.
>>>>>>>>Now, the oggs are supposedly readily played with Winamp, but so far, I
>>>>>>>>have had to take the posted .ogg files, and "drop" them into the fish
>>>>>>>>box, and then, when the program converts it into a sound file, I can
>>>>>>>>launch it with my stand alone MP3 player, Music Match JukeBox.
>>>>>>>>My tests show that the same file, MP3 versus .ogg. is about 1/3 the
>>>>>>>>size.
>>>>>>>>That's a helluva savings, and the quality is supposedly better with
>>>>>>>>.ogg.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Lemme know what you think, OK?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So, your saying that I rip to .wav with Audiograbber, then drop a
>>>>>>>.wav file into this proggie? Interesting, I'll give it a try. Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes, that is exactly what I figured out.
>>>>>>I ripped an MP3 but the fish said, "unsupported file type," and then I
>>>>>>ripped a file into a .wav file, and the fish ate it up very nicely,
>>>>>>and burped out an .ogg file.
>>>>>>The difference in size, with no loss of quality was amazing.
>>>>>>The .ogg was tiny in comparison to the MP3, and equally slim when
>>>>>>stacked up against the .wav file.
>>>>>>Then I upped all three of them to Aub's binary group,
>>>>>>*alt.binaries.aubergine*, and as you might expect the upping times
>>>>>>were indicative of the file size differences.
>>>>>>The MP3 took 18 minutes, the .wav a tad longer, whereas the .ogg took
>>>>>>2 minutes!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I then DL'd all 3 files, again with significant time differences, and
>>>>>>while I had to "drop" the .ogg file into the fish so that a useable
>>>>>>file could be produced, it didn't take an appreciable amount of time.
>>>>>>The quality was, to my untrained ear, the same for all 3.
>>>>>>Now, supposedly, if I were using Winamp, as opposed to Music Match
>>>>>>Jukebox, I wouldn't have needed to convert the .ogg file because
>>>>>>Winamp plays them just fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Hell, I ripped one song from a CD with Audiograbber. It will rip to
>>>>>the .ogg format. I got a free player here http://snackamp.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>I didn't see that much of size difference between .ogg and .mp3. The
>>>>>.mp3 is 2.60meg and the .ogg is 2.20meg. The quality is good.
>>>>
>>>>Interesting. I wonder why the .ogg wasn't smaller?
>>>>Hmmmm... mine was 1/3 the size of the MP3 file.
>>>>Maybe ripping to .ogg is somehow different than converting it from
>>>>.wav to .ogg.
>>>>Oh well, at least it is something new to play with, and it is "open
>>>>source" so it should improve over time.
>>>>
>>>>BTW, guy named Beaver was lamenting the fact that Tat had expired
>>>>because he wanted some help with video rips, so I told him that a guy
>>>>named GreatfulDead knew almost as much, and told him to come here.
>>>>Just letting you know.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the link!
>>>>
>>>Well, tell Beave to stop by. I am also in the process of making SVCDs
>>>of the Shania Twain concert that was on Tuesday night.
>>
>>Go to kissy and tell him yerself, or do I look like a friggin' errand
>>boy?
>>
>Uhhhhh, what's kissy? I did a search for kissy and came
>up with nothing. If there is a kissy group, I don't get it.
Oops. my fault, how would you know of it, you having just been born
and all...<s>
alt.binaries.dominion.classact.kissass.join
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