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Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 03:12:46 GMT
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>On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 02:39:13 GMT, TheGratefulDead
><thegratefuldead@your.house> wrote:
>
>>
>>>On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:51:13 GMT, TheGratefulDead
>>><thegratefuldead@your.house> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 06:55:00 GMT, TheGratefulDead
>>>>><thegratefuldead@your.house> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 05:41:24 GMT, TheGratefulDead
>>>>>>><thegratefuldead@your.house> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 03:28:27 GMT, TheGratefulDead
>>>>>>>>><thegratefuldead@your.house> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 02:01:32 GMT, TheGratefulDead
>>>>>>>>>>><thegratefuldead@your.house> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 03:39:59 GMT, TheGratefulDead
>>>>>>>>>>>>><thegratefuldead@your.house> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <Big Sniperoo>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, Tat was/is fighting lung cancer, you know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I know, I know, but I hated to discover that I gave money away under
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"those" circumstances. I felt tricked and hoaxed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>You were indeed, however, I had no control over the situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>No big deal but FWIW, I still feel that a full disclosure should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>made so that people are aware of the shameless trickery.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>If you want to make full disclosure, then make it. Like I said, I had
>>>>>>>>>>>>no control of the situation, and besides that, I have lost my Usenet
>>>>>>>>>>>>identity that I had for years. We all have suffered a loss in some way.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I never said you were involved in the hoax, didn't even mean to imply
>>>>>>>>>>>that. I have a pretty good idea of what happened, and why, but why
>>>>>>>>>>>that means that you need to lose your nic is beyond me. Then again, I
>>>>>>>>>>>have never been very bright.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Because noone would believe it's me. Then when I would say yes, it is me,
>>>>>>>>>>then I would be asked to explain myself. Then I would tell them to get fucked.
>>>>>>>>>>My real life personal problems is none of their business. So, it's best to
>>>>>>>>>>leave it the way it is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I understand.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Kewl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>FTR, I have tried to alert a couple of people, in a very roundabout
>>>>>>>>>>>fashion, that all my not be as it seems, but it's hard to do without
>>>>>>>>>>>coming right out and saying it, but now that you have given me
>>>>>>>>>>>permission to do so, I will, at the proper time and place.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>That's fine with me, however, i'm not going to explain myself to anyone.
>>>>>>>>>>In another group, Arch Stanton wanted me to explain myself and I more
>>>>>>>>>>or less told him, if he didn't like it, he could lump it. I guess he didn't
>>>>>>>>>>like it because I haven't heard from him since. That's all well and good.
>>>>>>>>>>All he is is a screen name anyway, so fuck him.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Again, I understand. (That's a record, BTW), and that's why I am only
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Double kewl. <s>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>going to alert a couple of people.
>>>>>>>>>I have pieced together that many of the camille ilk already know, and
>>>>>>>>>that's no big deal to me.
>>>>>>>>>Like you say, we are all just screen names, mostly.<s>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>No, I don't think that most of them know, unless Woodstock told them, and
>>>>>>>>noone has challenged my negative posts in camille about spidey collecting
>>>>>>>>PGP keys.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Way I see it, WS told Count Draculol, and the game was afoot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ummmm, you have lost me with this one. "game was afoot"??
>>>>>>Are you saying they all were running from me?
>>>>>
>>>>>No. If, as I know for a fact, a certain Wild bird told WS that what
>>>>>was dead, wasn't, then if only stands to reason that WS told Drac, and
>>>>>then Drac alerted other's.
>>>>>It's hard to prove because they all are pretty big on PGP'ing stuff.
>>>>
>>>>Oh well, who gives a shit anyway.
>>>
>>>Agreed.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Let me know if and when you want the MP3's, and should you get the
>>>>>>>>>>>chance, I wouldn't mind having that *Surrealistic Pillow.*
>>>>>>>>>>>TIA
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It seems that "surrealistic Pillow" was a casualty. I can't even find
>>>>>>>>>>my vinyl record of it. Sorry!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Fucking story of my life.<s>
>>>>>>>>>In any event, as this wasn't a "I'll trade you... for a copy of..."
>>>>>>>>>type deal, whatever CD's I have are yours.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I'll let ya noe when i'm ready. I'm still working in the 50s and 60s groups.
>>>>>>>>I appreciate the offer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>BTW, the wayward veggie, Aub, has just turned me onto a thing called
>>>>>>>>>the .ogg format for music files.
>>>>>>>>>You familiar with that?
>>>>>>>>>Only works on .wav files, or something like them, and reduces the file
>>>>>>>>>size by 1/3, without loss of quality.
>>>>>>>>>Very Interesting.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yeah, that's Ogg Vorbis format. I don't know much about it, but I
>>>>>>>>read that it's pretty good. You need a special player for those
>>>>>>>>files, if i'm not mistaken. I need to do some more research on it.
>>>>>>>>I think that the .ogg format will be the yEnc of music files. I can
>>>>>>>>see the bitching in the groups now. <G>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here's what I have found out in the last day since Aub upped it for
>>>>>>>me:
>>>>>>>The program, which I am posting for you, works by right clicking on
>>>>>>>the fish box, and from there you can set it up how you want it.
>>>>>>>It won't work if you rip an MP3 file, but, if you rip in .wav format,
>>>>>>>and then drag and drop that file into the fish box, it automatically
>>>>>>>converts the .wav file into an .ogg file.
>>>>>>>Now, the oggs are supposedly readily played with Winamp, but so far, I
>>>>>>>have had to take the posted .ogg files, and "drop" them into the fish
>>>>>>>box, and then, when the program converts it into a sound file, I can
>>>>>>>launch it with my stand alone MP3 player, Music Match JukeBox.
>>>>>>>My tests show that the same file, MP3 versus .ogg. is about 1/3 the
>>>>>>>size.
>>>>>>>That's a helluva savings, and the quality is supposedly better with
>>>>>>>.ogg.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Lemme know what you think, OK?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>So, your saying that I rip to .wav with Audiograbber, then drop a
>>>>>>.wav file into this proggie? Interesting, I'll give it a try. Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, that is exactly what I figured out.
>>>>>I ripped an MP3 but the fish said, "unsupported file type," and then I
>>>>>ripped a file into a .wav file, and the fish ate it up very nicely,
>>>>>and burped out an .ogg file.
>>>>>The difference in size, with no loss of quality was amazing.
>>>>>The .ogg was tiny in comparison to the MP3, and equally slim when
>>>>>stacked up against the .wav file.
>>>>>Then I upped all three of them to Aub's binary group,
>>>>>*alt.binaries.aubergine*, and as you might expect the upping times
>>>>>were indicative of the file size differences.
>>>>>The MP3 took 18 minutes, the .wav a tad longer, whereas the .ogg took
>>>>>2 minutes!
>>>>>
>>>>>I then DL'd all 3 files, again with significant time differences, and
>>>>>while I had to "drop" the .ogg file into the fish so that a useable
>>>>>file could be produced, it didn't take an appreciable amount of time.
>>>>>The quality was, to my untrained ear, the same for all 3.
>>>>>Now, supposedly, if I were using Winamp, as opposed to Music Match
>>>>>Jukebox, I wouldn't have needed to convert the .ogg file because
>>>>>Winamp plays them just fine.
>>>>>
>>>>Hell, I ripped one song from a CD with Audiograbber. It will rip to
>>>>the .ogg format. I got a free player here http://snackamp.sourceforge.net/
>>>>I didn't see that much of size difference between .ogg and .mp3. The
>>>>.mp3 is 2.60meg and the .ogg is 2.20meg. The quality is good.
>>>
>>>Interesting. I wonder why the .ogg wasn't smaller?
>>>Hmmmm... mine was 1/3 the size of the MP3 file.
>>>Maybe ripping to .ogg is somehow different than converting it from
>>>.wav to .ogg.
>>>Oh well, at least it is something new to play with, and it is "open
>>>source" so it should improve over time.
>>>
>>>BTW, guy named Beaver was lamenting the fact that Tat had expired
>>>because he wanted some help with video rips, so I told him that a guy
>>>named GreatfulDead knew almost as much, and told him to come here.
>>>Just letting you know.
>>>
>>>Thanks for the link!
>>>
>>Well, tell Beave to stop by. I am also in the process of making SVCDs
>>of the Shania Twain concert that was on Tuesday night.
>
>Go to kissy and tell him yerself, or do I look like a friggin' errand
>boy?
>
Uhhhhh, what's kissy? I did a search for kissy and came
up with nothing. If there is a kissy group, I don't get it.
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