| Re: Thank you, PCZ, for the TOS !! |
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| sam (sam@samsam.com) |
2017/10/14 17:55 |
as someone who still downloads headers, thank you very much!
In reply to "**PCZ**" who wrote the following:
> In reply to "Shredder" who wrote the following:
>
> > Observer <Guess@None.com> wrote in news:s6rEB.53115$8%2.13605@fx08.iad:
> >
> > >
> >
> > I also thank you for this excellent post of TOS. Also, thank you for NOT
> > obfuscating it, and for using the time honored method of hiding behind
> > character laden titles. Perhaps it will last for a while.
> >
> > I am using both Binsearch for regular postings and NZBPlanet for
> > obfuscated posts. Normally, NZBPlanet appears to be working quite well for
> > obfuscated posts, but I couldn't DL TOS using it. I had to resort to
> > Binsearch. NZBs from NZBPlanet would not DL thru Grabit, but they worked
> > admirably from Binsearch using the same NZB app. I wonder what happened?
> >
> > Frankly, I still don't think that obfuscating posts are the answer to DMCA
> > blocks. It's simply too cumbersome for most users who have no idea what
> > they are looking for without straightforward headers in the NGs. It's not
> > easy without knowing when a post is available. It's much easier seeing the
> > titles (or reasonable facsimiles) in the NG posts. The facsimile method
> > HAS been used back to the bulletin boards. I am comfortable using the
> > obfuscation method because I understand the reasons for it. I just don't
> > think it is the answer to the fundamental issue of killed posts. It takes
> > the fun out of using the NGs.
>
> For those that load headers and read posts the posting will last long enough
> for
> them to download.
> Thems the folks i post for.
>
> As to fully obfuscated posts i fear they aren't going to stop.
> The NZB sites have a vested interest in there continued use.
> They have always done it they are not a recent thing.
>
> Most folks ignored them as they got what they wanted from teevee.
> It was only after the EFNet bots stopped posting a lot of the shows that
> people
> were drawn to them.
>
> Years of everything posted in the clear or easily found by searching for the
> REQID number suddenly snatched away.
> You cant blame the EFNet posters, it was all risk and no reward.
>
> NZB site users generally pay subs, so there is money in it for them.
> So the obfuscation is primarily to make the shows hard to find for those who
> aren't members.
> Hiding files from the DNCA police is a secondary effect of the obfuscation.
> They aren't doing it to help out non member leechers, they are more Sherriff
> of
> Nottingham than Robin Hood.
>
> Geek and Grabbit are quite leech friendly hence i and others recommended them
> as
> a way to find shows for folks left in the cold by the absense of postings in
> teevee.
> They still want some subs but they can in the case of grabbit be used for free
> and in the case of geek the subs are reasonable.
>
> BTW
> I get the impression that you think i post the spaghetti files.
> Not so, i just tell folks what files are what from time to time to help out.
>
>
> As to some of the NZBs not working.
> Sabnzbd is the most reliable software to use, if an NZB doesn't work in SAB it
> is very broken.
>
> Sometimes the NZB will contain links to groups your News Server may not carry.
> the newzbab A to Z groups for example.
> Quite likely with nzbplanet and usenet crawler NZBs.
>
> Another thing that can be a gotcha is filtering.
> A while back when teevee got hammered many people added filteres banning
> certain
> posters.
> So make sure that filtering if applied to NZB ingest isn't banning the posters
> of the content in the NZB. pr3d for example.
> Also subject filters banning NEWZnzb for example.
>
> Open up the NZBs in a text editor and have a look.
>
> In NB Pro you can have different filter profiles applied to the groups
> including
> a none setting.
> I use none on NZB in.
> Otherwise default/global is applied.
> This did cause me some head scratching with certain NZBs not working.
>
> Agent may have similar.
>
>
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