| Re: Thank you, PCZ, for the TOS !! |
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| **PCZ** (**PCZ**@domain.com) |
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From: **PCZ** <**PCZ**@domain.com>
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Subject: Re: Thank you, PCZ, for the TOS !!
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In reply to "**PCZ**" who wrote the following:
> In reply to "Shredder" who wrote the following:
>
> > **PCZ** <**PCZ**@domain.com> wrote in news:uquEB.3130$cf2.1368@fx40.am4:
> >
> > > In reply to "Shredder" who wrote the following:
> > >
> > > > Observer <Guess@None.com> wrote in
> > > > news:s6rEB.53115$8%2.13605@fx08.iad:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I also thank you for this excellent post of TOS. Also, thank you for
> > > > NOT obfuscating it, and for using the time honored method of hiding
> > > > behind character laden titles. Perhaps it will last for a while.
> > > >
> > > > I am using both Binsearch for regular postings and NZBPlanet for
> > > > obfuscated posts. Normally, NZBPlanet appears to be working quite
> > > > well for obfuscated posts, but I couldn't DL TOS using it. I had to
> > > > resort to Binsearch. NZBs from NZBPlanet would not DL thru Grabit,
> > > > but they worked admirably from Binsearch using the same NZB app. I
> > > > wonder what happened?
> > > >
> > > > Frankly, I still don't think that obfuscating posts are the answer to
> > > > DMCA blocks. It's simply too cumbersome for most users who have no
> > > > idea what they are looking for without straightforward headers in the
> > > > NGs. It's not easy without knowing when a post is available. It's
> > > > much easier seeing the titles (or reasonable facsimiles) in the NG
> > > > posts. The facsimile method HAS been used back to the bulletin
> > > > boards. I am comfortable using the obfuscation method because I
> > > > understand the reasons for it. I just don't think it is the answer to
> > > > the fundamental issue of killed posts. It takes the fun out of using
> > > > the NGs.
> > >
> > > For those that load headers and read posts the posting will last long
> > > enough for them to download.
> > > Thems the folks i post for.
> > >
> > > As to fully obfuscated posts i fear they aren't going to stop.
> > > The NZB sites have a vested interest in there continued use.
> > > They have always done it they are not a recent thing.
> > >
> > > Most folks ignored them as they got what they wanted from teevee.
> > > It was only after the EFNet bots stopped posting a lot of the shows
> > > that people were drawn to them.
> > >
> > > Years of everything posted in the clear or easily found by searching
> > > for the REQID number suddenly snatched away.
> > > You cant blame the EFNet posters, it was all risk and no reward.
> > >
> > > NZB site users generally pay subs, so there is money in it for them.
> > > So the obfuscation is primarily to make the shows hard to find for
> > > those who aren't members.
> > > Hiding files from the DNCA police is a secondary effect of the
> > > obfuscation. They aren't doing it to help out non member leechers,
> > > they are more Sherriff of Nottingham than Robin Hood.
> > >
> > > Geek and Grabbit are quite leech friendly hence i and others
> > > recommended them as a way to find shows for folks left in the cold by
> > > the absense of postings in teevee.
> > > They still want some subs but they can in the case of grabbit be used
> > > for free and in the case of geek the subs are reasonable.
> > >
> > > BTW
> > > I get the impression that you think i post the spaghetti files.
> > > Not so, i just tell folks what files are what from time to time to
> > > help out.
> > >
> > >
> > > As to some of the NZBs not working.
> > > Sabnzbd is the most reliable software to use, if an NZB doesn't work
> > > in SAB it is very broken.
> > >
> > > Sometimes the NZB will contain links to groups your News Server may
> > > not carry. the newzbab A to Z groups for example.
> > > Quite likely with nzbplanet and usenet crawler NZBs.
> > >
> > > Another thing that can be a gotcha is filtering.
> > > A while back when teevee got hammered many people added filteres
> > > banning certain posters.
> > > So make sure that filtering if applied to NZB ingest isn't banning the
> > > posters of the content in the NZB. pr3d for example.
> > > Also subject filters banning NEWZnzb for example.
> > >
> > > Open up the NZBs in a text editor and have a look.
> > >
> > > In NB Pro you can have different filter profiles applied to the groups
> > > including a none setting.
> > > I use none on NZB in.
> > > Otherwise default/global is applied.
> > > This did cause me some head scratching with certain NZBs not working.
> > >
> > > Agent may have similar.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Maybe I did have you pegged as an obfuscator. Sorry for the error.
> > Nevertheless, I still find it wierd that NZBs from planet simply wouldn't
> > work. NZBPlanit has worked perfectly until your post. I tried all season 1
> > and didn't get a single jingle in the tcp/ip. Binsearch's NZBs took off in
> > a flash, and all data files came through without need for PARs. I only use
> > Grabit to DL NZBs. The only place I have posters plonked is XNews, nowhere
> > else. And, as with XNews, Grabit DLs only from Giganews, whether NZBs are
> > from Binsearch or NZBPlanet. Yes, I know Giganews had a hickup recently,
> > but who hasn't had one or two in the past. Yes, they won't admit it, but
> > who doesn't? They all think God should worship them, you know. They were
> > taught by AT&T.
>
> Have a look at the NZB you got from planet.
> I never uploaded one to them so they created it or a member uploaded it.
> Actually i dont upload NZBs to any of the sites.
> They manage to find my posts and do it themselves whether i want them to or
> not.
>
> NZBindex simply scanned this group so the content would be from here.
>
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The Heroes Reborn NZB worked OK.
Was there something you wanted to test ?
nzbplanet NZB content from teevee.
Show wasn't taken down on the servers i used.
???
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