| Re: Thank you, PCZ, for the TOS !! - 1 attachment |
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| Shredder (shredder@att.net) |
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Subject: Re: Thank you, PCZ, for the TOS !! - 1 attachment
From: Shredder <shredder@att.net>
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**PCZ** <**PCZ**@domain.com> wrote in
news:VzvEB.43627$e42.25306@fx32.am4:
> In reply to "Shredder" who wrote the following:
>
>> **PCZ** <**PCZ**@domain.com> wrote in
>> news:uquEB.3130$cf2.1368@fx40.am4:
>>
>> > In reply to "Shredder" who wrote the following:
>> >
>> > > Observer <Guess@None.com> wrote in
>> > > news:s6rEB.53115$8%2.13605@fx08.iad:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > I also thank you for this excellent post of TOS. Also, thank you
>> > > for NOT obfuscating it, and for using the time honored method of
>> > > hiding behind character laden titles. Perhaps it will last for a
>> > > while.
>> > >
>> > > I am using both Binsearch for regular postings and NZBPlanet for
>> > > obfuscated posts. Normally, NZBPlanet appears to be working quite
>> > > well for obfuscated posts, but I couldn't DL TOS using it. I had
>> > > to resort to Binsearch. NZBs from NZBPlanet would not DL thru
>> > > Grabit, but they worked admirably from Binsearch using the same
>> > > NZB app. I wonder what happened?
>> > >
>> > > Frankly, I still don't think that obfuscating posts are the
>> > > answer to DMCA blocks. It's simply too cumbersome for most users
>> > > who have no idea what they are looking for without
>> > > straightforward headers in the NGs. It's not easy without knowing
>> > > when a post is available. It's much easier seeing the titles (or
>> > > reasonable facsimiles) in the NG posts. The facsimile method HAS
>> > > been used back to the bulletin boards. I am comfortable using the
>> > > obfuscation method because I understand the reasons for it. I
>> > > just don't think it is the answer to the fundamental issue of
>> > > killed posts. It takes the fun out of using the NGs.
>> >
>> > For those that load headers and read posts the posting will last
>> > long enough for them to download.
>> > Thems the folks i post for.
>> >
>> > As to fully obfuscated posts i fear they aren't going to stop.
>> > The NZB sites have a vested interest in there continued use.
>> > They have always done it they are not a recent thing.
>> >
>> > Most folks ignored them as they got what they wanted from teevee.
>> > It was only after the EFNet bots stopped posting a lot of the shows
>> > that people were drawn to them.
>> >
>> > Years of everything posted in the clear or easily found by
>> > searching for the REQID number suddenly snatched away.
>> > You cant blame the EFNet posters, it was all risk and no reward.
>> >
>> > NZB site users generally pay subs, so there is money in it for
>> > them. So the obfuscation is primarily to make the shows hard to
>> > find for those who aren't members.
>> > Hiding files from the DNCA police is a secondary effect of the
>> > obfuscation. They aren't doing it to help out non member leechers,
>> > they are more Sherriff of Nottingham than Robin Hood.
>> >
>> > Geek and Grabbit are quite leech friendly hence i and others
>> > recommended them as a way to find shows for folks left in the cold
>> > by the absense of postings in teevee.
>> > They still want some subs but they can in the case of grabbit be
>> > used for free and in the case of geek the subs are reasonable.
>> >
>> > BTW
>> > I get the impression that you think i post the spaghetti files.
>> > Not so, i just tell folks what files are what from time to time to
>> > help out.
>> >
>> >
>> > As to some of the NZBs not working.
>> > Sabnzbd is the most reliable software to use, if an NZB doesn't
>> > work in SAB it is very broken.
>> >
>> > Sometimes the NZB will contain links to groups your News Server may
>> > not carry. the newzbab A to Z groups for example.
>> > Quite likely with nzbplanet and usenet crawler NZBs.
>> >
>> > Another thing that can be a gotcha is filtering.
>> > A while back when teevee got hammered many people added filteres
>> > banning certain posters.
>> > So make sure that filtering if applied to NZB ingest isn't banning
>> > the posters of the content in the NZB. pr3d for example.
>> > Also subject filters banning NEWZnzb for example.
>> >
>> > Open up the NZBs in a text editor and have a look.
>> >
>> > In NB Pro you can have different filter profiles applied to the
>> > groups including a none setting.
>> > I use none on NZB in.
>> > Otherwise default/global is applied.
>> > This did cause me some head scratching with certain NZBs not
>> > working.
>> >
>> > Agent may have similar.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Maybe I did have you pegged as an obfuscator. Sorry for the error.
>> Nevertheless, I still find it wierd that NZBs from planet simply
>> wouldn't work. NZBPlanit has worked perfectly until your post. I
>> tried all season 1 and didn't get a single jingle in the tcp/ip.
>> Binsearch's NZBs took off in a flash, and all data files came through
>> without need for PARs. I only use Grabit to DL NZBs. The only place I
>> have posters plonked is XNews, nowhere else. And, as with XNews,
>> Grabit DLs only from Giganews, whether NZBs are from Binsearch or
>> NZBPlanet. Yes, I know Giganews had a hickup recently, but who hasn't
>> had one or two in the past. Yes, they won't admit it, but who
>> doesn't? They all think God should worship them, you know. They were
>> taught by AT&T.
>
> Have a look at the NZB you got from planet.
> I never uploaded one to them so they created it or a member uploaded
> it. Actually i dont upload NZBs to any of the sites.
> They manage to find my posts and do it themselves whether i want them
> to or not.
>
> NZBindex simply scanned this group so the content would be from here.
>
>
I think NZBplanet is like Binsearch. Both create their own NZBs. Attached
is a zip file of the NZB from planet for one episode that I DL'd earlier.
Don't bother trying it, it's deader than a hammer.
=ybegin line=128 size=39355 name=20171007042112-Nzbplanet.zip
=yend size=39483 crc32=5298d372
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