| Re: Thank you, PCZ, for the TOS !! |
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| Shredder (shredder@att.net) |
2017/10/14 15:05 |
**PCZ** <**PCZ**@domain.com> wrote in news:uquEB.3130$cf2.1368@fx40.am4:
> In reply to "Shredder" who wrote the following:
>
>> Observer <Guess@None.com> wrote in
>> news:s6rEB.53115$8%2.13605@fx08.iad:
>>
>> >
>>
>> I also thank you for this excellent post of TOS. Also, thank you for
>> NOT obfuscating it, and for using the time honored method of hiding
>> behind character laden titles. Perhaps it will last for a while.
>>
>> I am using both Binsearch for regular postings and NZBPlanet for
>> obfuscated posts. Normally, NZBPlanet appears to be working quite
>> well for obfuscated posts, but I couldn't DL TOS using it. I had to
>> resort to Binsearch. NZBs from NZBPlanet would not DL thru Grabit,
>> but they worked admirably from Binsearch using the same NZB app. I
>> wonder what happened?
>>
>> Frankly, I still don't think that obfuscating posts are the answer to
>> DMCA blocks. It's simply too cumbersome for most users who have no
>> idea what they are looking for without straightforward headers in the
>> NGs. It's not easy without knowing when a post is available. It's
>> much easier seeing the titles (or reasonable facsimiles) in the NG
>> posts. The facsimile method HAS been used back to the bulletin
>> boards. I am comfortable using the obfuscation method because I
>> understand the reasons for it. I just don't think it is the answer to
>> the fundamental issue of killed posts. It takes the fun out of using
>> the NGs.
>
> For those that load headers and read posts the posting will last long
> enough for them to download.
> Thems the folks i post for.
>
> As to fully obfuscated posts i fear they aren't going to stop.
> The NZB sites have a vested interest in there continued use.
> They have always done it they are not a recent thing.
>
> Most folks ignored them as they got what they wanted from teevee.
> It was only after the EFNet bots stopped posting a lot of the shows
> that people were drawn to them.
>
> Years of everything posted in the clear or easily found by searching
> for the REQID number suddenly snatched away.
> You cant blame the EFNet posters, it was all risk and no reward.
>
> NZB site users generally pay subs, so there is money in it for them.
> So the obfuscation is primarily to make the shows hard to find for
> those who aren't members.
> Hiding files from the DNCA police is a secondary effect of the
> obfuscation. They aren't doing it to help out non member leechers,
> they are more Sherriff of Nottingham than Robin Hood.
>
> Geek and Grabbit are quite leech friendly hence i and others
> recommended them as a way to find shows for folks left in the cold by
> the absense of postings in teevee.
> They still want some subs but they can in the case of grabbit be used
> for free and in the case of geek the subs are reasonable.
>
> BTW
> I get the impression that you think i post the spaghetti files.
> Not so, i just tell folks what files are what from time to time to
> help out.
>
>
> As to some of the NZBs not working.
> Sabnzbd is the most reliable software to use, if an NZB doesn't work
> in SAB it is very broken.
>
> Sometimes the NZB will contain links to groups your News Server may
> not carry. the newzbab A to Z groups for example.
> Quite likely with nzbplanet and usenet crawler NZBs.
>
> Another thing that can be a gotcha is filtering.
> A while back when teevee got hammered many people added filteres
> banning certain posters.
> So make sure that filtering if applied to NZB ingest isn't banning the
> posters of the content in the NZB. pr3d for example.
> Also subject filters banning NEWZnzb for example.
>
> Open up the NZBs in a text editor and have a look.
>
> In NB Pro you can have different filter profiles applied to the groups
> including a none setting.
> I use none on NZB in.
> Otherwise default/global is applied.
> This did cause me some head scratching with certain NZBs not working.
>
> Agent may have similar.
>
>
Maybe I did have you pegged as an obfuscator. Sorry for the error.
Nevertheless, I still find it wierd that NZBs from planet simply wouldn't
work. NZBPlanit has worked perfectly until your post. I tried all season 1
and didn't get a single jingle in the tcp/ip. Binsearch's NZBs took off in
a flash, and all data files came through without need for PARs. I only use
Grabit to DL NZBs. The only place I have posters plonked is XNews, nowhere
else. And, as with XNews, Grabit DLs only from Giganews, whether NZBs are
from Binsearch or NZBPlanet. Yes, I know Giganews had a hickup recently,
but who hasn't had one or two in the past. Yes, they won't admit it, but
who doesn't? They all think God should worship them, you know. They were
taught by AT&T.
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