On Thu, 22 May 2014 17:45:55 -0500, Hal <janhaltn@newsguy.com> wrote:
>Thanks for all of the information. I'm sorry to say that some of my
>memory has also faded with the sands of time. Hal
>
You're welcome Hal.
It happens to the best of us ;^)
Griffin
>On Wed, 21 May 2014 07:56:16 -0500, Griffin <hosgriffin@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 20 May 2014 16:22:53 -0700, Katie <me@my-email.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 18 May 2014 19:32:19 -0500, Griffin <hosgriffin@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 26 Apr 2014 17:26:04 -0500, Griffin <hosgriffin@gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I want to create an Excel spreadsheet that has a list of all of the
>>>>>Hearts of Space programs. Some of the columns could be:
>>>>>Program Name, Program Number, Artist, Album, Track Title, etc...
>>>>>(the details can be discussed here before starting)
>>>>>
>>>>>Obviously this would take one person a very long time. So I am asking
>>>>>for volunteers. The more people working on this, the sooner it will be
>>>>>done ;^)
>>>>>
>>>>>If you want to help with this, please send me an email at
>>>>>hosgriffin at gmail dot com
>>>>>
>>>>>I will coordinate the effort, and post an updated spreadsheet weekly.
>>>>>I will also send the completed list to Stephen Hill.
>>>>>
>>>>>If ten people add ten programs to the spreadsheet every week, then it
>>>>>will be done in less than three months.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Recently I sent the following email to Stephen Hill:
>>>>>Hello,
>>>>> I have a recording of program 136 from many years ago, and during
>>>>>the program you say that the title is "Floating." But on your website,
>>>>>the title of program 136 is "Floating Whispers." Which one is correct?
>>>>>I also have another recording of program 325, and during the program
>>>>>you say that the title is "Floating Whispers", but on your website the
>>>>>title of program 325 is "Floating Whispers 2."
>>>>>
>>>>>I've also noticed several other anomalies on your website. For
>>>>>instance, the program details of number 2 - "Starmusic", which was
>>>>>first broadcast on 5 Jan. 1983 lists the release year of some of the
>>>>>albums used as being after 1983 - (1988, 1997, 1991.)
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry to point these things out Stephen, because you really do amazing
>>>>>work.
>>>>>
>>>>>Have you ever considered hiring someone to go thru your website and
>>>>>fact check everything?
>>>>>
>>>>>Sincerely, (a HOS fan since 1987)
>>>>>
>>>>>Here is Stephen's reply:
>>>>>Thanks for casting a precision eye on our program listings. You are
>>>>>one of a small but appreciated group who've contacted us about details
>>>>>like these. Since we aim to get things right 100%, we always respond
>>>>>and fix any errors that are pointed out to us.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've passed your email on to Steve Davis, who is the keeper of our
>>>>>Programs database. He will respond to you if he needs more
>>>>>information; otherwise he'll fix whatever he can immediately.
>>>>>
>>>>>Please understand that we seldom update titles of shows when they are
>>>>>rerun, but there have been a few cases where it's happened in 30 years
>>>>>of broadcasting.
>>>>>
>>>>>On playlists, there's no point in listing out-of-print versions of an
>>>>>album if there is a currently released version, so in these cases we
>>>>>sometimes update the listings, which explains the later pub dates..
>>>>>The goal is to give the listener current access information - we are
>>>>>not a historical archive like Discogs.com that can list every
>>>>>publication of a given album.
>>>>>
>>>>>Re your offer: we have a short list of People Who Care about these
>>>>>things, and are always happy to have help in finding and fixing
>>>>>errors. When we have an actual project, we'll contact you. There's one
>>>>>coming up to verify the timing information (track start and end times)
>>>>>prior to breaking the programs into their component tracks.
>>>>>
>>>>>Stay Tuned. Safe journey :: SH
>>>>
>>>>Here is a follow up email sent by Steve Davis:
>>>>Thanks for your diligence with regard to details of the early shows.
>>>>Now, as for the titles of early programs, remember that HOS grew out
>>>>of a live 3-hour weekly broadcast, where there really wasn't a
>>>>specific show title (just a general description handwritten on the box
>>>>of a reel tape!). In the early days of syndication, NPR needed a
>>>>unique identifier for each episode...and for that purpose, the program
>>>>*number* is clearly more efficient and less ambiguous. I'm not
>>>>implying that the title of the program is not important, but I think
>>>>the titles of some of those early shows were a bit more "fluid," if
>>>>you will.
>>>>
>>>>I went back to the original typewritten documents of that show from
>>>>1987 and here's what I found: the official playlist & timings sheet
>>>>given to NPR for that broadcast (i.e. the same data used for creating
>>>>our website playlist) is titled "Floating Whispers." The voiceover
>>>>script for the show has a heading of "FLOATING" but the text of the
>>>>intro copy says "music for floating" (not in caps, more like a
>>>>description than a title). I have a hunch that the title was settled
>>>>on after the voiceovers were recorded and just before readying the
>>>>and Michael Stearns' "Floating Whispers" fit the bill perfectly. Since
>>>>the official playlist for NPR has that title, I'm inclined to leave
>>>>things the way they are. If we change the title for "Floating
>>>>Whispers," then we would also have to alter the title for "Floating
>>>>Whispers 2," if only slightly. It gets rather complicated.
>>>>
>>>>Steve Davis
>>>>Associate Producer
>>>>HEARTS OF SPACE Radio Pgm.
>>>
>>>Really fascinating. Thanks for sharing. ;)
>>>
>>>Katie
>>
>>You're welcome Katie.
>>
>>The first time that I sent an email to hos.com was about fifteen years
>>ago, and it was because I had heard Stephen Hill say that the name of
>>program 91 was "Anna Turner Tribute." Of course I, and everyone else,
>>had known for more than a decade that the name of program 91 was
>>"Winter Light." So I sent off an email that said that they had gotten
>>the name wrong. A woman responded (Mrs. Hill?), and she said that I
>>was mistaken. So I replied back and said that she was mistaken, and
>>even the Hearts of Space website agreed with me. Stephen replied a few
>>days later, and he said that he had dug up the old tapes, and indeed
>>the name of program 91 on the tape was "Winter Light." But he had
>>decided to change the name in memory of Anna. He also said that the
>>website that still had the original name was no longer being used, and
>>would be taken down. Fast forward to 2014, and the site is still there
>>https://www.hos.com/playlists/all.html
>>
>>Unfortunately that email thread has been lost to the sands of time.
>>
>>NOTE: Anna mistakenly calls program 91 "Crystal Light", which is why I
>>think that this name has never been used for another program.
>>
>>
>>If anyone else has a unique and interesting fact or story about Hearts
>>of Space, I would love to hear it.
>>
>>Griffin
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