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On 2018-12-01 19:11:04 +0000, Miloch <Miloch_member@newsguy.com> said:
> In article <XnsA9AB81C497566noemailattnet@216.166.97.131>, Mitchell Holman
> says...
>>
>> Stormin' Norman <norman@schwarzkopf.in.memorium> wrote in
>> news:3b350elbbaqbpqufensebdgrrlacnqqgd1@4ax.com:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On the other hand, there is a good possibility that CVN-81 will be
>>> named for Barrack Obama.
>>>
>>
>> That beats the current practice of naming carriers
>> after civilian congressmen (John Stennis, Carl Vinson)
>> whose only claim to fame is steering money to the navy.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Navy Ship Names: Background for Congress
>
> https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/RS22478.html
>
>
> Names for Navy ships traditionally have been chosen and announced by the
> Secretary of the Navy, under the direction of the President and in accordance
> with rules prescribed by Congress. Rules for giving certain types of names to
> certain types of Navy ships have evolved over time. There have been exceptions
> for a person when the rule for that type of ship would have called for it to be
> named for something else. Some observers have perceived a breakdown in, or
> corruption of, the rules for naming Navy ships. On July 13, 2012, the Navy
> naming ships.
>
> For ship types now being procured for the Navy, or recently procured for the
> Navy, naming rules can be summarized as follows:
>
> The first Ohio replacement ballistic missile submarine (SSBN-826) has
> been named
> Columbia in honor of the District of Columbia, but the Navy has not stated what
> the naming rule for these ships will be.
>
> Virginia (SSN-774) class attack submarines are being named for states.
>
> Aircraft carriers are generally named for past U.S. Presidents. Of the past 14,
> 10 were named for past U.S. Presidents, and 2 for Members of Congress.
Generally.
There was CV-59 Forrestal named for a Secretary of Defense, James
Forrestal, who for whatever reason committed suicide in 1949. However,
he was a Navy aviator, and Secretary of the Navy before becoming the
first Sec. of Defense. An interesting, troubled, and ultimately tragic
man. So, he had an aircraft carrier, and a D.C. government building
named for him.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Forrestal>
>
> Destroyers are being named for deceased members of the Navy, Marine Corps, and
> Coast Guard, including Secretaries of the Navy.
>
> Littoral Combat Ships (LCSs) are being named for regionally important U.S.
> cities and communities.
>
> Amphibious assault ships are being named for important battles in which U.S.
> Marines played a prominent part, and for famous earlier U.S. Navy ships that
> were not named for battles.
>
> San Antonio (LPD-17) class amphibious ships are being named for major U.S.
> cities and communities, and cities and communities attacked on September 11,
> 2001.
>
> John Lewis (TAO-205) class oilers, previously known as TAO(X)s, are being named
> for people who fought for civil rights and human rights.
>
> Lewis and Clark (TAKE-1) class cargo and ammunition ships were named for famous
> American explorers, trailblazers, and pioneers.
>
> Expeditionary Fast Transports (EPFs), previously called Joint High
> Speed Vessels
> (JHSVs), are being named for small U.S. cities.
>
> Expeditionary Transport Docks (ESDs) and Expeditionary Sea Bases (ESBs),
> previously called Mobile Landing Platform (MLP) ships and Afloat
> Forward Staging
> Bases (AFSBs), respectively, are being named for famous names or places of
> historical significance to U.S. Marines.
>
> Since 1974, at least 20 U.S. military ships have been named for persons
> who were
> living at the time the name was announced. The most recent instance occurred on
> July 11, 2018, when the Navy announced that it was expanding the name of the
> destroyer John. S. McCain (DDG-56), originally named for Admiral John S. McCain
> (1884-1945) and Admiral John S. McCain, Jr. (1911-1981), to also
> include Senator
> John S. McCain III.
>
> Members of the public are sometimes interested in having Navy ships named for
> their own states or cities, for older U.S. Navy ships (particularly those on
> which they or their relatives served), for battles in which they or their
> relatives participated, or for people they admire.
>
> Congress has long maintained an interest in how Navy ships are named, and has
> influenced the naming of certain Navy ships. The Navy suggests that
> congressional offices wishing to express support for proposals to name a Navy
> ship for a specific person, place, or thing contact the office of the Secretary
> of the Navy to make their support known. Congress may also pass legislation
> relating to ship names. Measures passed by Congress in recent years regarding
> Navy ship names have all been sense-of-the-Congress provisions.
>
>
>
>
> *
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Regards,
Savageduck
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