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From: Charles Lindbergh <spirit@stlouis.com>
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Subject: Re: US Forces Just Dropped Their Largest Non-Nuclear Bomb for the First Time - US just dropped MOAB (Mother of all bombs) on ISIS Cave Complex in Afganistan
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On 13 Apr 2017 14:45:23 -0700, Miloch <Miloch_member@newsguy.com>
wrote:
>In article <dvrvechq9dffna0k433vtl3prapnd5bqds@4ax.com>, Charles Lindbergh
>says...
>>
>>On 13 Apr 2017 14:23:28 -0700, Miloch <Miloch_member@newsguy.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <i5qvec9p5jp3c72r2a73vbev35e5686cm0@4ax.com>, Charles Lindbergh
>>>says...
>>>>
>>>>On 13 Apr 2017 11:07:45 -0700, Miloch <Miloch_member@newsguy.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>http://gizmodo.com/us-forces-just-dropped-its-largest-non-nuclear-bomb-for-1794298289
>>>>>
>>>>>Citing military sources, CNN reports the United States just dropped a
>>>>>30-foot-long bomb with a blast yield equivalent to 11 tons of TNT on suspected
>>>>>first time a MOAB has been used in combat.
>>>>>
>>>>>Details of the attack remain sparse. According to CNN, the bombing aimed to take
>>>>>network also says that the bomb was dropped from an Air Force Special Operations
>>>>>
>>>>>What we do know is that the MOAB is an extremely powerful weapon. First
>>>>>developed in the lead up to the 2003 Iraq invasion, the bomb, officially named
>>>>>the GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast, had only been detonated in testing
>>>>>psychological warfare after it was moved into the theater back in 2003. The US
>>>>>military also distributed videos of test drops that show how the 21,600-pound,
>>>>>GPS-guided bomb can level entire armies. They are indeed scary videos:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Update 1:49pm - White House press secretary Sean Spicer confirmed the MOAB
>>>>>detail about the attack but instead referred reporters to Gen. John Nicholson,
>>>>>commander of US forces in Afghanistan, as well as the Defense Department for
>>>>>more information. It remains unclear if President Trump authorized or even knew
>>>>>about the bombing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The Grand Slam bomb, developed by Barnes Wallace during the second
>>>>war, was a 22,000 lb. monster which was loaded with Torpex. Grand
>>>>Slam was a penetrator, able to bury itself up to 130 ft below the
>>>>surface before detonating.
>>>>
>>>>The MOAB is loaded with H6 and is designed to air burst, not
>>>>penetrate, if I am not mistaken.
>>>>
>>>>I wonder what the advantages are of the MOAB vs. the Grand Slam. As I
>>>>recall, the Grand Slam was extremely effective.
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.ajc.com/news/local-military/what-the-mother-all-bombs-and-what-does/MIfXaYYaPyCaraZNF4UOcK/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Thanks, I appreciate the reply.
>>
>>Aside from one being an air burst weapon and the other being a
>>penetrator, I am still curious about the advantages and why they would
>>use an air burst weapon against tunnels instead of a penetrator.
>>
>>Further research revealed the USA has a device which is larger than
>>the MOAB, it is the GBU-57, a 30k lbs. penetrator. Capable of
>>penetrating 200 ft. of reinforced concrete, which is quite impressive.
>>
>>http://newatlas.com/massive-ordnance-penetrator-mop-gbu-57ab/20538/
>
>
>http://www.businessinsider.com/moab-airburst-bomb-explanation-2017-4?google_editors_picks=true
>
>
>
Thanks, obviously it all depends upon the construction of the target.
I suppose open caves or mines would be susceptible to an air burst
weapon where a specifically constructed, underground bunker would
require a penetrator.
I appreciate the research you conducted.
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