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Subject: Re: Crossposting?
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 08:19:21 -0500
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In article <7mlqucdve4jt3fvfa40ptnom7mh4oautk0@4ax.com>, SL
<SerpentLord@Evil.Incarn8> wrote:
> As far as takedowns? Are there any moderators anymore,
> anywhere? Doesn't matter. Even in the old days of .pubes, nearly
> 100% of the takedown threats came too little too late. I saw most of
> them.
I think Oynk was talking about DMCA takedowns, which don't rely on
moderators or propagating Usenet cancel messages (and cancels have been
ignored by most servers for most of forever anyway). There are a
number of studios that are aggressive in monitoring newsgroups and web
sites and file-locker services to see whether some of their images have
been posted. When they spot some (often based on file checksums, but
I'm sure also on subject-header keywords and stuff like that), they
send automated takedown requests to the hosting servers, in this case
all of the major Usenet providers. If those requests are legitimate
(that is, someone really does own the copyright and has a grievance
under the stupid obsolete laws), the server admins are required to
delete the files. It's mostly automated on both ends, requests and
compliance, and the number of takedown requests is in the millions per
day. I don't mean for newsgroups only, but in general, including web
sites and search engines and stuff.
There's an example of that happening at the moment on a porn web site
where I'm keeping an eye on an ongoing thread to maybe pick up some new
stuff. The studio S**th*rn Ch*rms is one of those aggressive ones that
will issue takedown requests immediately, like within hours of
something of theirs showing up somewhere. (That's why those SC
newsgroups have been dead for years.) So there's a continuing
whack-a-mole game going on to try to make the stuff available to
downloaders via that site, and then SC has it deleted from the
image-hosting services, and then someone re-ups it a few weeks later,
etc. It never ends.
Other studios that have historically been aggressive that way include
AL$ and Perfect 10. A rare piece of good news is that Perfect 10 in
the last few years has repeatedly lost a *major* court battle against
Giganews (including appeals) and is now being forced to shut down,
declare bankruptcy, and pay Giganews millions of dollars as punishment
for P10 having been a sleazy copyright troll. However, the dickweasel
lawyer who owns and operates P10 is illegally stonewalling and trying
to hide his assets to avoid paying up, so Giganews is continuing to sue
him.
<https://torrentfreak.com/usenet-provider-giganews-sues-perfect-10-
for-fraud-demands-20m-170712/>
So if anyone has collections of P10 images, post away, and Norman Zada
can blow goats.
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