BillFrugge <pinback@darkstar.spc> wrote:
>On 2019-07-14 20:33:03 +0000, dontno314 said:
>
>> BillFrugge <pinback@darkstar.spc> wrote:
>>> On 2019-07-14 02:43:13 +0000, dontno314 said:
>>>
>>>> BillFrugge <pinback@darkstar.spc> wrote:
>>>>> On 2019-07-13 20:52:55 +0000, dontno314 said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> BillFrugge,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for the comments, some of them made me consider why I post.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been on UseNet since the early days, back when we used tools like
>>>>>> Archie, Veronica and Jughead. Mail came to us via Oak or Elm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Over the years I have built a collection of material from UseNet and
>>>>>>other
>>>>>> sources, some provide by others upon request. To those people I am
>>>>>> greatful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have looked at what was our community as a pay it forward society, one
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> was based on others have the material we wanted / needed for our
>>>>>> coilections,
>>>>>> or to re-live a memory we had and perhaps wanted to re-capture. Hence,
>>>>>> groups
>>>>>> such as this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of us have aquired collections over the decades that allow us access
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> memories that we had, watching the flickering lights and over saturated
>>>>>> colors
>>>>>> of TV growing up. Or watching movies that were released before we were
>>>>>>born
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> coming to love them. Both the movies and TV shows are considerably better
>>>>>> written then most of the drivel that is currently being produced and
>>>>>>aired.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As a former teacher I loved to share information and this platform served
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>> purpose well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What TV shows today have the diamond like brilliance of Playhouse 90, or
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> anthology series of the 50s. Movies from the '30s with the subversive
>>>>>> dialog
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the Marx brothers or The Thin Man films and Our Man Godfrey?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Subjects that we dare not address lest we fall under the finger pointing
>>>>>>of
>>>>>> political correctness?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was / is these reasons that I post. To share experiences that are
>>>>>>locked
>>>>>> away from the past few generations and to perhaps expose them to a
>>>>>> different
>>>>>> viewpoint, one that is not muddled by accusations or it offends someone.
>>>>>> Shows
>>>>>> and movies that mean something rather then tentpoles that numb our senses
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> cover up writing that when measure against 12 Angry Men don't even come
>>>>>> close.
>>>>>> What was created to run as a 50-minute drama.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It boils down to context. Do TV shows and movies of the past offend
>>>>>> someone,
>>>>>> then perhaps they need to develope a thicker skin and view the TV show or
>>>>>> film
>>>>>> in the time frame it was created.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is why I post.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry for the ramble, blame it on the coffee.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pi.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BillFrugge <pinback@darkstar.spc> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2019-07-12 20:13:44 +0000, dontno314 said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh-Boy asked for a series that I had and so I posted it for the
>>>>>>>>request.
>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>> done this several times of the past few months to see if the
>>>>>>>>"politeness"
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> UseNet had improved. Obviously it has not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I am sorry to all that put in requests for old series and such, but
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>> closing shop again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To those of you that do post you know what a pain it is to do it right
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> rars and pars, and the amount of time it takes. To those of you that
>>>>>>>>do,
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> thanks. As to the rest, you want something, post something.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The real question is 'Why does anyone post?'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I post occasionally, but I don't really know why I do it. Do we post
>>>>>>> out of generosity? Maybe. Posting consumes the time it takes to get the
>>>>>>> files together, prep them, and the bandwidth needed to post.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are no rewards. Yes, there is the occasional 'thank you' for the
>>>>>>> post. But that's become rather rare these days with bots and nzb
>>>>>>> trackers. Without conversation, these names become just random bits
>>>>>>> that we expect will respond to commands.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And then there are the problems that come from posting. The requests
>>>>>>> for reposts. And the emails from your ISP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is no requirement on anyone to post. You certainly don't owe it
>>>>>>> to anyone. But I, for one, am grateful - even if I don't download what
>>>>>>> is posted. Just having the option is amazing in my opinion, and for
>>>>>>> that I will thank everyone that posts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dontno314, I'm putting something together that you might find
>>>>>>> interesting. Look for it in One Week.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, the coffee is good, no matter what it leads us to do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paying it forward is definitely the right phrase.
>>>>>
>>>>> From the posters, I have found many shows that I wouldn't have noticed
>>>>> otherwise. I probably wouldn't have even had a chance to see them! And
>>>>> yes, I have accumulated a large, ever expanding library on my Plex
>>>>> server - television on demand!
>>>>>
>>>>> I share your view on today's fare. Most shows today are weakly written,
>>>>> devoid of ideas, and poorly acted. And no one (in my opinion) can come
>>>>> close to the genius of the Marx Brothers.
>>>>
>>>> I tried Plex, but I prefer Mezzmo as my DLNA server. I don't like a server
>>>>to
>>>> organize the meta data in my collection (60+ Tb) on external USB 3.0
>>>>drives.
>>>> I
>>>> use an Excel spreadsheet to keep track of contents. I have the drive
>>>>divided
>>>> in
>>>> Movies (by decade), TV series (by decade) and documentaries.
>>>>
>>>> The subjects have three columns in the sheet, so in a matter of seconds I
>>>>can
>>>> narrow down exactly the type of thing I want to watch.
>>>>
>>>> I also have an AndroidTV box connected to my main screen that I can pop a
>>>> drive
>>>> into and watch with either VLC, or Kodi, or Mezzmo Player. I'm also running
>>>> 1000BaseT with switches through my space so when I have guests for the
>>>> weekend,
>>>> if they want to watch something other then what I want, they can go for it
>>>> without lag.
>>>
>>> I'll have to take a look at Mezzmo.
>>>
>>> I'm fairly new to Plex, but I like it so far. I'd been looking at the
>>> AppleTV so that I could watch some of my online library, but I finally
>>> got one once I'd seen what Plex could do.
>>>
>>> I don't see the AppleTV listed as being supported by Mezzmo, but I do
>>> see my old WDTV Live player and the Sony BDP player, so it'd be
>>> interesting to see how that acts compared to Plex.
>>>
>>> I main library is stored on off-line drives. What is loaded into Plex
>>> is only copies of media that I want currently available. The
>>> organization of televison shows compares to what I'd been using on my
>>> WDTV player, but I'm not too sure about the movies. I can find a movie
>>> in Plex just fine, either by title or genre, but managing the drive
>>> folder itself can be rather messy; it doesn't care about a folder
>>> structure.
>>>
>>> I also use Excel to track everything in the offline library. I can
>>> quickly find out which drive a particular show is on, and what format
>>> it is available in. I've tried to include DVD copies, too, but it gets
>>> to be a chore to maintain. I like your idea to keep track of the
>>> decade, so I might add that column.
>>>
>>> Also, I wanted to be sure that you found 'One Week.' (I chose to
>>> obscure the title for this posting.) Or did you find another copy
>>> elsewhere?
>>
>>
>> I'm going to follow your lead and post at the bottom of the thread.
>>
>> You hit the nail on the head about Kodi and Plex. Neither care about drives
>>or
>> folder structure, which is fine if you have a massive NAS sub-system. As my
>> media server evolved, I found that 1) the cost per Gb and the cost of Tb
>> dropped drimatically over the years, 2) going with ANY closed system (such
>>as a
>> NAS) means that I am limited to the max abount of storage that unit may
>>handle.
>> While my approach (and yours) of using external USBs is literally unlimited.
>>
>> Another reason I went this route is ownership vs. licensing (and privacy).
>> Under the terms of use, even if you "buy" a movie or TV series from Apple or
>> Netflix or Apple, you don't actually own the perpetual "rights" to the
>> intellectual property. Your going to see this coming up very quickly for
>>people
>> that "bought" Friends on Netflix. "The show will move to HBO Max when that
>>deal
>> expires at the start of 2020. WarnerMedia Entertainment Networks president
>> Reilly strongly indicated back in February that Friends would be pulled from
>> Netflix and moved to the streaming platform when he noted that "it's not a
>>good
>> model to share." "
>>
>> So what happens to those that have Friends in their catalogues? It's gone. If
>> they want it, they will have to subscripe to HBO Max to get it and pay again
>> for the privileged. And that's assuming that the service will be available on
>> their devices. Having offline copies stops the DMCA bullshit.
>>
>> The reason I use Mezzmo (or VLC) CAN work with folder / drive structures.
>>
>> The problem with AppleTV is that Apples mindset is their eco-system
>> deliberately doesn't play nice with others. This was part of Steve Jobs
>>orginal
>> design plan. All my family uses Apple which means as a Windows user, I can't
>> speak to them natively. They either have to add Skype or I have to get an
>> Apple. I solved this issue by running a Sierra VM on my system. And for my
>>next
>> build I will probably make a Hackintosh (After all, iOS is basically a Linux
>> fork).Pi
>>
>> As to your issues:
>>
>>
>>https://www.expertreviews.co.uk/apple/apple-tv/8059/how-to-connect-your-apple-tv-to-a-dlna-server
>>
>>
>> A lot of backflips to do something that industry standard.
>>
>> BTW, I did not request "Weeks" and I hope the person you posted it for will
>> thank you.
>>
>> Pi
>>
>> It is by Caffeine alone I set my mind
>> in motion. It is by the beans of Java
>> that thoughts aquire speed, the hands
>> aquire shakes, the shakes become a
>> warning. It is by caffeine alone I set
>> my mind in motion.
>
>Oh, I thought you were looking for 7 Days awhile back. Oh well, it's
>out there now. If someone wants the rest they'll have to ask.
>
>I learned my lesson with DRM long ago with Liquid Audio. I had a few
>tracks with it, but you could only play them with their application.
>Now that they are no longer around, neither are my tracks.
>
>My online library is composed mostly of movies and shows that came with
>digital copies. The rest are programs that I've purchased through
>Apple's store - and I've got the ability to remove the DRM from them. I
>still prefer to have a physical copy whenever possible. (Which then
>gets ripped and put on the hard drives for quick access.)
>
>Plex is running nicely. I can access my server either through an app or
>a web browser, and it will stream videos in whatever format is needed
>for the platform. It's even handling the x265 scheme that my WDTV
>couldn't. Fortunately, I'm not putting many movies into it right now.
>
>I checked out Plex on the Sony BluRay player, but was not impressed.
>The menu system was nothing more than a folder system, and the one
>video I tried would not play. It just kept reporting that the player
>could not handle that format and wouldn't let me exit.
>
>Thanks for the articles on connecting the AppleTV to a DLNA server. You
>are right, that is a lot of backflips. I think I'll just pick up an
>Android TV when I get to that point. (I'm not committed to any platform
>- it's a tool.)
>
>I've gone the Hackintosh route before. It does work, but you have to
>watch out that you don't do any updates. You can't use just any
>hardware, either.
The version of "one-week" may have been from DVD copies, but there source was
TV rips, not the released set. Sigh.
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