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BillFrugge <pinback@darkstar.spc> wrote:
>On 2019-07-15 00:27:54 +0000, dontno314 said:
>
>> BillFrugge <pinback@darkstar.spc> wrote:
>>> On 2019-07-14 20:33:03 +0000, dontno314 said:
>>>
>>>> BillFrugge <pinback@darkstar.spc> wrote:
>>>>> On 2019-07-14 02:43:13 +0000, dontno314 said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> BillFrugge <pinback@darkstar.spc> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2019-07-13 20:52:55 +0000, dontno314 said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BillFrugge,
>>>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you for the comments, some of them made me consider why I post.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have been on UseNet since the early days, back when we used tools
>>>>>>>>like
>>>>>>>> Archie, Veronica and Jughead. Mail came to us via Oak or Elm.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Over the years I have built a collection of material from UseNet and
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> sources, some provide by others upon request. To those people I am
>>>>>>>> greatful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have looked at what was our community as a pay it forward society,
>>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> was based on others have the material we wanted / needed for our
>>>>>>>> coilections,
>>>>>>>> or to re-live a memory we had and perhaps wanted to re-capture. Hence,
>>>>>>>> groups
>>>>>>>> such as this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some of us have aquired collections over the decades that allow us
>>>>>>>>access
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> memories that we had, watching the flickering lights and over saturated
>>>>>>>> colors
>>>>>>>> of TV growing up. Or watching movies that were released before we were
>>>>>>>> born
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> coming to love them. Both the movies and TV shows are considerably
>>>>>>>>better
>>>>>>>> written then most of the drivel that is currently being produced and
>>>>>>>> aired.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As a former teacher I loved to share information and this platform
>>>>>>>>served
>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>> purpose well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What TV shows today have the diamond like brilliance of Playhouse 90,
>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> anthology series of the 50s. Movies from the '30s with the subversive
>>>>>>>> dialog
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the Marx brothers or The Thin Man films and Our Man Godfrey?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subjects that we dare not address lest we fall under the finger
>>>>>>>>pointing
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> political correctness?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It was / is these reasons that I post. To share experiences that are
>>>>>>>> locked
>>>>>>>> away from the past few generations and to perhaps expose them to a
>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>> viewpoint, one that is not muddled by accusations or it offends
>>>>>>>>someone.
>>>>>>>> Shows
>>>>>>>> and movies that mean something rather then tentpoles that numb our
>>>>>>>>senses
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> cover up writing that when measure against 12 Angry Men don't even come
>>>>>>>> close.
>>>>>>>> What was created to run as a 50-minute drama.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It boils down to context. Do TV shows and movies of the past offend
>>>>>>>> someone,
>>>>>>>> then perhaps they need to develope a thicker skin and view the TV show
>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>> film
>>>>>>>> in the time frame it was created.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is why I post.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry for the ramble, blame it on the coffee.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pi.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BillFrugge <pinback@darkstar.spc> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2019-07-12 20:13:44 +0000, dontno314 said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Oh-Boy asked for a series that I had and so I posted it for the
>>>>>>>>>> request.
>>>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>>>> done this several times of the past few months to see if the
>>>>>>>>>> "politeness"
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> UseNet had improved. Obviously it has not.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So I am sorry to all that put in requests for old series and such,
>>>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>>> closing shop again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To those of you that do post you know what a pain it is to do it
>>>>>>>>>>right
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> rars and pars, and the amount of time it takes. To those of you that
>>>>>>>>>> do,
>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>> thanks. As to the rest, you want something, post something.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The real question is 'Why does anyone post?'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I post occasionally, but I don't really know why I do it. Do we post
>>>>>>>>> out of generosity? Maybe. Posting consumes the time it takes to get
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>> files together, prep them, and the bandwidth needed to post.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are no rewards. Yes, there is the occasional 'thank you' for the
>>>>>>>>> post. But that's become rather rare these days with bots and nzb
>>>>>>>>> trackers. Without conversation, these names become just random bits
>>>>>>>>> that we expect will respond to commands.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And then there are the problems that come from posting. The requests
>>>>>>>>> for reposts. And the emails from your ISP.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is no requirement on anyone to post. You certainly don't owe it
>>>>>>>>> to anyone. But I, for one, am grateful - even if I don't download what
>>>>>>>>> is posted. Just having the option is amazing in my opinion, and for
>>>>>>>>> that I will thank everyone that posts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> dontno314, I'm putting something together that you might find
>>>>>>>>> interesting. Look for it in One Week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, the coffee is good, no matter what it leads us to do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paying it forward is definitely the right phrase.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From the posters, I have found many shows that I wouldn't have noticed
>>>>>>> otherwise. I probably wouldn't have even had a chance to see them! And
>>>>>>> yes, I have accumulated a large, ever expanding library on my Plex
>>>>>>> server - television on demand!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I share your view on today's fare. Most shows today are weakly written,
>>>>>>> devoid of ideas, and poorly acted. And no one (in my opinion) can come
>>>>>>> close to the genius of the Marx Brothers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried Plex, but I prefer Mezzmo as my DLNA server. I don't like a
>>>>>>server
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> organize the meta data in my collection (60+ Tb) on external USB 3.0
>>>>>> drives.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> use an Excel spreadsheet to keep track of contents. I have the drive
>>>>>> divided
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> Movies (by decade), TV series (by decade) and documentaries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The subjects have three columns in the sheet, so in a matter of seconds I
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> narrow down exactly the type of thing I want to watch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also have an AndroidTV box connected to my main screen that I can pop a
>>>>>> drive
>>>>>> into and watch with either VLC, or Kodi, or Mezzmo Player. I'm also
>>>>>>running
>>>>>> 1000BaseT with switches through my space so when I have guests for the
>>>>>> weekend,
>>>>>> if they want to watch something other then what I want, they can go for
>>>>>>it
>>>>>> without lag.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll have to take a look at Mezzmo.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm fairly new to Plex, but I like it so far. I'd been looking at the
>>>>> AppleTV so that I could watch some of my online library, but I finally
>>>>> got one once I'd seen what Plex could do.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't see the AppleTV listed as being supported by Mezzmo, but I do
>>>>> see my old WDTV Live player and the Sony BDP player, so it'd be
>>>>> interesting to see how that acts compared to Plex.
>>>>>
>>>>> I main library is stored on off-line drives. What is loaded into Plex
>>>>> is only copies of media that I want currently available. The
>>>>> organization of televison shows compares to what I'd been using on my
>>>>> WDTV player, but I'm not too sure about the movies. I can find a movie
>>>>> in Plex just fine, either by title or genre, but managing the drive
>>>>> folder itself can be rather messy; it doesn't care about a folder
>>>>> structure.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also use Excel to track everything in the offline library. I can
>>>>> quickly find out which drive a particular show is on, and what format
>>>>> it is available in. I've tried to include DVD copies, too, but it gets
>>>>> to be a chore to maintain. I like your idea to keep track of the
>>>>> decade, so I might add that column.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I wanted to be sure that you found 'One Week.' (I chose to
>>>>> obscure the title for this posting.) Or did you find another copy
>>>>> elsewhere?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm going to follow your lead and post at the bottom of the thread.
>>>>
>>>> You hit the nail on the head about Kodi and Plex. Neither care about
>>>>drives
>>>> or
>>>> folder structure, which is fine if you have a massive NAS sub-system. As my
>>>> media server evolved, I found that 1) the cost per Gb and the cost of Tb
>>>> dropped drimatically over the years, 2) going with ANY closed system (such
>>>> as a
>>>> NAS) means that I am limited to the max abount of storage that unit may
>>>> handle.
>>>> While my approach (and yours) of using external USBs is literally
>>>>unlimited.
>>>>
>>>> Another reason I went this route is ownership vs. licensing (and privacy).
>>>> Under the terms of use, even if you "buy" a movie or TV series from Apple
>>>>or
>>>> Netflix or Apple, you don't actually own the perpetual "rights" to the
>>>> intellectual property. Your going to see this coming up very quickly for
>>>> people
>>>> that "bought" Friends on Netflix. "The show will move to HBO Max when that
>>>> deal
>>>> expires at the start of 2020. WarnerMedia Entertainment Networks president
>>>> Reilly strongly indicated back in February that Friends would be pulled
>>>>from
>>>> Netflix and moved to the streaming platform when he noted that "it's not a
>>>> good
>>>> model to share." "
>>>>
>>>> So what happens to those that have Friends in their catalogues? It's gone.
>>>>If
>>>> they want it, they will have to subscripe to HBO Max to get it and pay
>>>>again
>>>> for the privileged. And that's assuming that the service will be available
>>>>on
>>>> their devices. Having offline copies stops the DMCA bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> The reason I use Mezzmo (or VLC) CAN work with folder / drive structures.
>>>>
>>>> The problem with AppleTV is that Apples mindset is their eco-system
>>>> deliberately doesn't play nice with others. This was part of Steve Jobs
>>>> orginal
>>>> design plan. All my family uses Apple which means as a Windows user, I
>>>>can't
>>>> speak to them natively. They either have to add Skype or I have to get an
>>>> Apple. I solved this issue by running a Sierra VM on my system. And for my
>>>> next
>>>> build I will probably make a Hackintosh (After all, iOS is basically a
>>>>Linux
>>>> fork).Pi
>>>>
>>>> As to your issues:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>https://www.expertreviews.co.uk/apple/apple-tv/8059/how-to-connect-your-apple-tv-to-a-dlna-server
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A lot of backflips to do something that industry standard.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, I did not request "Weeks" and I hope the person you posted it for will
>>>> thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Pi
>>>>
>>>> It is by Caffeine alone I set my mind
>>>> in motion. It is by the beans of Java
>>>> that thoughts aquire speed, the hands
>>>> aquire shakes, the shakes become a
>>>> warning. It is by caffeine alone I set
>>>> my mind in motion.
>>>
>>> Oh, I thought you were looking for 7 Days awhile back. Oh well, it's
>>> out there now. If someone wants the rest they'll have to ask.
>>>
>>> I learned my lesson with DRM long ago with Liquid Audio. I had a few
>>> tracks with it, but you could only play them with their application.
>>> Now that they are no longer around, neither are my tracks.
>>>
>>> My online library is composed mostly of movies and shows that came with
>>> digital copies. The rest are programs that I've purchased through
>>> Apple's store - and I've got the ability to remove the DRM from them. I
>>> still prefer to have a physical copy whenever possible. (Which then
>>> gets ripped and put on the hard drives for quick access.)
>>>
>>> Plex is running nicely. I can access my server either through an app or
>>> a web browser, and it will stream videos in whatever format is needed
>>> for the platform. It's even handling the x265 scheme that my WDTV
>>> couldn't. Fortunately, I'm not putting many movies into it right now.
>>>
>>> I checked out Plex on the Sony BluRay player, but was not impressed.
>>> The menu system was nothing more than a folder system, and the one
>>> video I tried would not play. It just kept reporting that the player
>>> could not handle that format and wouldn't let me exit.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the articles on connecting the AppleTV to a DLNA server. You
>>> are right, that is a lot of backflips. I think I'll just pick up an
>>> Android TV when I get to that point. (I'm not committed to any platform
>>> - it's a tool.)
>>>
>>> I've gone the Hackintosh route before. It does work, but you have to
>>> watch out that you don't do any updates. You can't use just any
>>> hardware, either.
>>
>> I did request "7-days", but "One Week" is a Candian TV show as well.
>>Sometimes
>> being clever bites you!
>>
>> I think I did get your post, was it from off the air or the DVD release? If
>>it
>> was the DVD's would you please repost them?
>>
>> As to HackenTosh, if you haven't already look at this site:
>>
>>
>>http://tonymacx86.blogspot.com/2010/04/iboot-multibeast-install-mac-os-x-on.html
>>
>>
>> Pi
>
>Too clever. I didn't even stop to think if there was another show by
>that name...
>
>They are from DVD. Looks like they're still available.
>
>tonymacx86 is THE place. I used to frequent osxlatitude forums since I
>based my hackintoshes on some Dell laptops, and a lot of the files came
>from tony.
Would you kindly repost the .nzb's or give me a hint what to look for? Thank's!
Pi
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