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Subject: Re: thanks fred-bloggs for the advice on non-expiring servers. It even works with posts which have been taken down the same day.
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On 2016-12-05 18:18:02 +0000, Sara Bellum said:
> symm <symm@nowhere.org> wrote in
> news:2016120502014762287-symm@nowhereorg:
>
>> On 2016-11-30 12:53:11 +0000, Wednesday Weld said:
>>
>>> Thank you Sara.
>>>
>>> On 2016-11-30 04:50:09 -0500, Sara Bellum said:
>>>
>>>> Wednesday Weld <notues@hotslot.com> wrote in news:583d8e1f$0$40855
>>>> $b1db1813$2411a48f@news.astraweb.com:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2016-11-29 06:54:34 -0500, Sara Bellum said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's fixed them:-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Which servers are they? Can't find Fred's post.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is the final posts on the subject, which was under the heading
>>>> 3000 days retention:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 02 Nov 2016 20:23:05 GMT, Sara Bellum <Sara@cortex.com>
>>>>> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have just tried to download Rogues Regiment, which was posted
>>>>>> 2671 days ago, with Astraweb and it is not complete upon the
>>>>>> server
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you using both US and EU servers ?
>>>>> eu.news.astraweb.com
>>>>> us.news.astraweb.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are looking for posts from that age you should consider
>>>>> getting
>>>> a
>>>>> non-expiring block from another provider such as Newsdemon,
>>>>> Usenet-News or Newsgroupdirect to fill the gaps in Astraweb.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Fred.
>>>> Yes, I always use both servers when I'm in Astraweb.
>>>> I'll get wth one of your suggested other providers.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>> Sara
>>
>> Thanks for the tip.
>>
>> But a quick search for "non-expiring block Newsdemon" brings up the
>> sales page for the account. It just seems like a pre-paid data plan
>> for a usenet service, i.e. X GBs of data with no time limit until
>> used. But it doesn't seem to be any special block of data; just the
>> same data you get with a monthly/yearly plan form the same provider.
>> Newdemon does currently advertise 3034 day retention but I don't see
>> how that helps with "posts which have been taken down the same day"
>> which is what grabbed my attention. I assume this to mean DCMA style
>> takedowns of binary posts. Perhaps Newsdemon or one of the other
>> listed providers is less likely to have this issue?
>>
>> I can see this being a good backup for your preferred service. Pay for
>> X amount of data to supplement your normal usenet subscription service
>> and not have to worry about your pre-paid data allotment expiring.
>> While not a guarantee of compleness, it increases the odds, but again
>> how does this help with "posts which have been taken down the same
>> day"?
>>
>> Am I missing something?
>>
>>
>
> Posts which were not available to download from my usual servers, where I
> have still thousands of GBs of credit, were fully downloaded from one of
> the non-expiring servers. Certain posts are taken down the day they are
> posted. This is a practice performed on many popular posts. This is a
> fact.
Thanks for the reply.
Which service works best in this regard for you? Original comment had
listed Newsdemon, Usenet-News or Newsgroupdirect. Was it one of these
or do you have to retry on more than one?
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