On Tue, 02 Jul 2019 14:56:12 -0500, burnt@toast.com wrote:
>On Tue, 02 Jul 2019 16:18:34 GMT, cooking <cooking@email.com> wrote:
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>>Really? Whether usenet posted or not doesn't matter? When is the last time someone in this group posted a requested item from a *private* capture? There are a couple of people in this grouop today that *create* original postings (and a thank-you to them!), but the vast vast majority of postings these days don't originate from folks directly participating in this group (even postings with abbreviated file names that don't credit the original source).
>>Continuing - where do you think almost all of the *original postings* to this group (and usenet groups in general ...) come from? Yes, from teams of people that speciaize in a broad set of captures (like W4F and CAFFEiNE), that post them initially via very *private* distribution sites that then get redistributed from there to more generalized outlets - the most important of them being usenet distribution groups that originating/cataloging sties capture (usually with private access to sources for un-obfuscating filenames), and then ultimately this group, the file sharing sites, and eventually public torrents.
>>So, bottom line, I can't remember the last time I saw an item like what is posted in this group on a file sharing site that didn't originate/also exist in usenet. So, whether something has been posted really does matter. Thank you very much.
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>I'm not sure why you seem to have become so defensive over my
>statement, and I'm more than experienced in how Usenet and newsgroups
>work.
>
>As far as someone posting a private capture, I did it myself last
>year. Yes I know that's a while ago, but there was a specific request
>that I just happened to have (and that show was last posted about 3
>years earlier). So I posted that episode on 06/17/18.
>
>There are plenty of people that lurk and only download from newsgroups
>without contributing to them. There is absolutely nothing wrong with
>anyone posting a request for something they need and hope a member of
>the group will step up and post the needed episodet.
>
>So I stick by my statement that it doesn't really matter if it's been
>posted to this, or any other group.
Thank you, burnt. I agree with you 100%. I've lurked in newsgroups
for decades and have never posted a private capture. What I've tried
to do is make posts available when people ask if I have a way to do
so. Lately, I have done this by sharing .nzb files to series like ATK
or CC. And as far as the abbreviations go, that has been done in this
group for many years. I assume that is to make it harder for content
providers to search for their original material being shared.
I, for one, am happy to get my hands on specific series, like ATK, any
way I can, be it a "private capture", a .nzb file or any other form or
means and I don't mind being helpful and posting them any way I can if
others are looking for the same. It's my way of giving back. If that
is offensive to some, I would be more than happy to just keep it to
myself and quit posting anything at all to this group. Feel free to
let me know.
-Jazzman
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