On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 17:19:48 -0500, RexTyler
<RexTyler@JusticeSociety0fAmerica.org> wrote:
>Prior to this thread I never thought my bandwidth was "fast" . After
>doing websearches the past few days I foubd out my speed are way
>above average in the USA [but less than average in many other places]
>
>During the day I am able to download approx 620MB per minute or 3.6GB
>per hour. In the evening it goes down approx 500MB per mintute/3GB an
>hour sometimes slower.
>
>The package [100/50] from my local cable company runs me what I
>thought was an expensive $39.95 per month [more for those without the
>TV plan]. I do live in an area where the is plenty of competition for
>broadband. Guess it proves what the old saying is competition is good
>for the consumer.
>
>Stutor hoping you will consider doing more in higher bit rate for
>those of us who like natural life life like movement on what today is
>consider an average sized TV.
I guess it's fine and all to post these videos in 1080p, or in 4K or
in 3D or whatever you like. According to information I can get at the
moment, there are no cable services delivering service in 1080p. And
precious few, if any, content providers creating programming in 1080p.
I doubt PBS is creating or delivering episodes of ATK or CC or any of
its other cooking programs in 1080p, which means the original content
is delivered in the standard cable resolution of 720p. Any file posted
here in 1080p has been obtained in 720p then upconverted to 1080p.
Perhaps the poster can tell us what he's doing and how so we'll know
for sure, one way or the other.
I'm not really sure just how much more "bang for the buck" you get out
of an upconverted 1080p video. Yes, a movie ripped from a BluRay disk,
which is 1080p from the source, then converted to an x264 MKV will be
outstanding and suitable for watching on your mammoth screen. But
watching an upconverted 720p isn't all that much better than its
source. Slightly perhaps, but it's not true 1080p if the content
provider and the content delivered didn't 'cast it that way in the
first place.
http://www.bundle.tv/faq/why-dont-major-cable-companies-support-1080p-broadcasts.html
I'm not against 1080p, per se. I have several hundred 1080p MKV's from
Bluray rips that look outstanding. My copy of the 1960's Brit horror
movie "Plague of the Zombies" is eye-boggling, even on my vintage 2003
Samsung 32" 1080i CRT. I've downloaded numerous 1080p videos from
YouTube, especially from their SpaceRip channel, which are visually
stunning.
But video of a guy walking around his kitchen cooking a chicken
casserole? C'mon.
Herb
>
>Once again friends, I have exactly 1 TV and it's not in my small
>kitchen.
>
>
>On Tue, 02 Feb 2016 11:18:55 -0800, PeggLeg <reply@here.net> wrote:
>
>>Yup!
>>
>>PeggLeg
>>
>>In article <2hq1bb11vl8dh9s9n2ikdc80bd9u1dtm2v@news.giganews.com>, Herb
>>Thymebaum <Herb@GardinersGrove.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 01 Feb 2016 23:42:20 -0800, PeggLeg <reply@here.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >(I HAD to cut some of that out...now were using the bandwidth!!)
>>> >I have the mid-speed ADSL and it takes a half an hour or so to d/l one
>>> >of SNSs 700MB posts. And...SNS!...that is NOT a complaint. It is worth
>>> >it. And Geoff: That was me again that mentioned the TV in the kitchen.
>>> >It seems we are pleading two different causes: You seem to be talking
>>> >about preserving these for the future and I am talking about using them
>>> >as cooking aids. If we want to preserve them for the future, usenet is
>>> >NOT the way to do it. Get in touch with the folks that make these vids
>>> >and have them save them on a high res archive (Blu-Ray or whatever is
>>> >best). Certainly not a download from usenet.
>>> >Griff: I thought I had it bad. You may have a slow internet, but after
>>> >30 years of sailing up and down the west coast, going mostly into
>>> >Ketchikan and Drift River (Kenai) as well as Valdez, I can honestly say
>>> >that you live in one of the most beautiful places in th U.S.! I loved
>>> >going up to Alaska.
>>> >Again, SNS: Do whatever is best for you. And Thanks for all.
>>> >
>>> >PeggLeg
>>> >
>>> >In article <2016020119165216807-@news.giganews.com>, Griff wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> > Still many will regret the lower bitrates in the future.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > BTW yet another person noted TV in the kitchen. Once again I do not
>>> >> > have TV in my kitchen. Is that the only place some folks watch food
>>> >> > related TV? If so do they only watch travel shows in their
>>> >> > automobiles?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Stutor my friend. I implore you to think about the future preservation
>>> >> > and offer bitrates as you did with the first s16e05 aka S16e03. Huge
>>> >> > thanks again for your effort.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I these shows were on blu-ray I'd buy them in a second. As stutor said
>>> >> > 2 years back his uploads look better as they are higher-resolution.
>>> >>
>>> >> I have the "fast" DSL package ... with nothing else using the
>>> >> bandwidth, my DL speed is 75-100 kB/second. If my wife or I are
>>> >> reading CNN, the speed drops to about 45-60 kB/second. If we're both
>>> >> trying to read CNN, it drops even farther, as well as the CNN page
>>> >> loads taking longer.
>>> >>
>>> >> For that reason, I generally prefer to buy the DVD, even if they are
>>> >> starting to go the way of 8-track tapes and Betamax.
>>>
>>> There's a time and a place for everything, no doubt. I'm not sure that
>>> the place for highest video quality is in a cooking show.
>>>
>>> As to going with the 'latest and greatest', I'm mindful of several
>>> other groups here on usenet where a poster wants everyone to go with
>>> the new 4K technology, and wants everyone to start uploading all their
>>> material in the new x265 technology, so that super high quality videos
>>> are about 1/5 the size of x264 files; taking a 1080p file from 2.5 gig
>>> to 400-500 meg. Since there aren't any hardware devices that currently
>>> implement x265, he's encouraging everyone on Usenet to buy a new
>>> Android player which will incorporate those codecs. Maybe he has stock
>>> in the Android device market, I don't know. "Are You using the latest
>>> technology?" he admonishes posters.
>>>
>>> May be the wave of the future, and in all likelihood, x265 will become
>>> the new standard, just as x264 MKV's have pushed .avi off the scene,
>>> and are doing likewise with mp4's. But, I don't think that Now is the
>>> time, requiring the vast majority of Usenet video downloaders to have
>>> to buy a new device to use them.
>>>
>>> And, likewise, I'm not sure that cooking shows are the place to
>>> demand BluRay quality files. OK, Bridget Lancaster gives me the hots
>>> too; but getting to see her in 4K on the 20 foot wide screen thirty
>>> years from now when I review these 2016 episodes is not really all
>>> that important. Getting to watch the steps for creating the dish is
>>> what's important, and, quite frankly, I can do that even with a
>>> 640x480 .avi. While a lot of programming merits 1080p for the 96" 4K
>>> monitor, 720p for the size screen you might have in your kitchen
>>> (certainly 32" or less, probably more like 24") or for your tablet is
>>> more than adequate. If you can't learn the steps via a 720p file on
>>> your 16" tablet, having them in 1080P or 4K won't help you much.
>>>
>>> Leave 1080p for Godzilla or Law and Order episodes.
>>>
>>> Herb
>>> >>
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