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On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 07:30:45 -0400, Opoponax
<opoponaxNOSPAM@hushmail.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:51:43 +0200, COM@comeon.net wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 22:30:44 -0400, Opoponax
>><opoponaxNOSPAM@hushmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 23:28:02 +0200, COM@comeon.net wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 09:44:48 -0400, Opoponax
>>>><opoponaxNOSPAM@hushmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 13:42:59 +0200, COM@comeon.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 06:24:31 -0400, Opoponax
>>>>>><opoponaxNOSPAM@hushmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 10:50:53 +0200, COM@comeon.net wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Olivier, Olivier (1992)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102583/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>COM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I mentioned this to you elsewhere, but here it is again for anyone
>>>>>>>else who might want to know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The DVD release of this movie is not the way to go. It's heavily
>>>>>>>edited (I forget how much was removed, but quite at lot) from what was
>>>>>>>in the VHS release. I have no idea about quality, but with so much
>>>>>>>removed, I'd be grateful for a well-done VHS rip of this one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-Opoponax
>>>>>>>Wolf! Right here and now!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Can't remember having heard that, but it sounds to be a cruel
>>>>>>treatment to a movie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>COM
>>>>>
>>>>>I remember I was absolutely apalled when I read it, since I'd been
>>>>>considering ordering the DVD from ah mah zone you kay for both of us,
>>>>>and now I can't find the discussion where I found this out....
>>>>>
>>>>>However, compare the VHS and DVD running times for the VHS (dot com)
>>>>>and the DVD (dot co dot uk). You'll need to convert, since the VHS is
>>>>>NTSC and the DVD is PAL)
>>>>>
>>>>>VHS is 110 minutes NTSC (which is 105.6 PAL)
>>>>>DVD is 105 minutes PAL (which is 109.4 NTSC)
>>>>>
>>>>>so now that I've done the math I don't see a whackload of difference.
>>>>>Maybe the one who posted the complaint had a bogus or alternative DVD
>>>>>release (such as an import, modified to get past customs).
>>>>>
>>>>>I'll keep looking for the DVD and we will see what we will see
>>>>>
>>>>>-Opoponax
>>>>>Wolf! Right here and now!
>>>>
>>>>Found this:
>>>>
>>>>Buy VHS not DVD
>>>>Author: mikedarlow from United Kingdom
>>>>13 July 2007
>>>>I recorded most of movie on VHS many years ago, and have just bought a
>>>>used DVD from USA.
>>>>
>>>>I wish to warn viewers, that a full 17 minutes is omitted on DVD, near
>>>>the films end.
>>>>
>>>>From point where the older Olivier returns home finding Serge delving
>>>>in the garage, asking for help to sort out mess, to the point where
>>>>Olivier drives on his motorbike to the little house and gives Marcel
>>>>his just deserts, full 17 minutes omitted on DVD .
>>>>
>>>>THIS IS THE HEART OF THE MOVIE
>>>>
>>>>Will try to relate what is missing on DVD :-
>>>>
>>>>Father Serge in Garage, finds old bottle of Calvados; he and Olivier
>>>>consume it all getting drunk. They accuse each in turn of running away
>>>>from home.
>>>>
>>>>When they rejoin the two women, man and boy are in a bad way, Olivier
>>>>singing 'House of the Rising Sun'.
>>>>
>>>>Wife takes Serge to bed nursing his hangover
>>>>
>>>>Later mother relates to Nadine what happened out shopping. Surrounded
>>>>by lady shoppers, Gossip questing about return of husband and son.
>>>>Newspaper reports true relative Olivier ? (Implication rent boy).
>>>>
>>>>Nadine finds Olivier in bed crying. She joins him. Olivier produces
>>>>sisters questionnaire board and supplies Nadine, with all the correct
>>>>answers.
>>>>
>>>>Then Olivier half dressed, enters Nadine's bedroom; she in turn is
>>>>crying. He joins her in bed, he is cold and lonely. Nadine questions
>>>>him again about Paris. He explains that his life has been in a series
>>>>of railway station, his orphanages.
>>>>
>>>>She draws him closer and then they have sex.
>>>>
>>>>(Viewers wondering is this incest)?
>>>>
>>>>Later Nadine becomes utterly convinced that Olivier is her brother and
>>>>rushes to tell father Serge what she has seen and heard outside the
>>>>house
>>>>
>>>>At this point, we rejoin the DVD near the film's end, Olivier sorting
>>>>out Marcel.
>>>>
>>>>I think it criminal that heart of the film omitted on DVD.
>>>>
>>>>olivier olivier is a very fine film, ruined in the DVD version. Buy
>>>>the VHS and enjoy !
>>>>
>>>>Sincerely, Michael Darlow.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>COM
>>>
>>>Sounds like it could be I was right when I said "Maybe the one who
>>>posted the complaint had a bogus or alternative DVD release (such as
>>>an import, modified to get past customs)."
>>>
>>>He did specify he'd bought it from a USA source, whereas the PAL DVD I
>>>used in the comparison above was from ah mah zahn dot co dot uk
>>>
>>>I can't afford the DVD at the moment (probably not for a few months)
>>>and since I'd have to buy a VCR and learn how to do VHS rips, there's
>>>no point in buying the VHS.
>>>
>>>-Opoponax
>>>Wolf! Right here and now!
>>
>>Isn't the 5 mns difference between NTSC and PAL 5 mns?
>>
>>COM
>
>The 5 minutes difference between NTSC and PAL versions is not anything
>cut, it's the normal result of converting between the two formats.
>
>So of the two versions I saw, mathematically there's nothing lost on
>the DVD version.
>
>-Opoponax
Gotta buy it - I think
COM
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