Reply to Requested.txt
Hi Requested,
I got your message. Here is the answer to some of your concerns.
>Beside all the wise things you said, I was surprised to see you hanging in >this group and I started wondering about one thing...
I hang in all of the boy groups. I am not a 'collector' as you have intuited. For the most part I am interested in helping boys (yes they are in these groups and for the same reason men are) and newbie boylovers. I want to help keep them safe from just the sort of danger you picked up on. I appear to be the only one doing this consistently and as a result, I take it seriously. I guess it is most accurate to say that I try to keep my finger on the pulse in our groups.
>I am not capable of following all the conversations that you have had in >the Fort (I "kill filtered" a certain number of people over there for my own >sanity), but I have seen repeated request to get a so-called "list" of groups >from a number of afficionados.
I may be one of them! LOL! All the others are one person. Oh, and the trolls.....
>I am now wondering if you have:
>1- effectively sent any list to these requesters...
I do have a list. But after the all the grief I got from the Fort Kittens and Grant I got out of the 'List Business' altogether. I do periodically share the list with friends and folks I know. I was never one to e-mail the list to those who asked inanely in the groups, with a few exceptions. I certainly have not done that in recent months.
>2- in the case you did, if this group and another that you most certainly >know about was included in that possible "list"...
I know of most of the boy oriented groups. They are almost all on the list. Some like the pw protected groups (scorppion, agl, propeller) are listed as password protected with no hope of a password.
In recent months, due to a number of factors (like the frequent shifting of groups) I have left some groups (like the other one you're referring to) off the list and on an addendum that helps those who will help themselves find where things are happening.
>I so, would you be kind enough to refrain from including them in it in the >future?
I will happily comply with your request, and if fact, I suppose I have been for awhile. But I have a question about that: Your Google Groups solution doesn't help those with the password situation that anyone will have when they stumble upon a new group. How will those newcomers who abide by the rules and follow the White Rabbit down the hole find the promised land? The trail from there to here is twisted and has many turnings and codes and methods of encryption. As of now, the only people who can find you are the ones who've been able to keep up. Even I am sometimes on a cold trail for a few days after a move. How do deserving newcomers get the info they need. You need a password to get a password, if you catch my meaning.
>I believe that you should instead direct those requester to very simple >tools such as Google Group. They already have made "links" between >existing groups because of the very harmful habit (for security and peace >of mind) that some people had to crosspost to many different groups at >the same time. That without saying these persons didn't had the habit of >checking the "X-No-Archive" button on their Newsreader before posting >their bowels and feelings on Usenet, habit that is preventing Google and it's >predecessors to put all these text into Archive as it is cleverly mentioned >when you check that button.
>As it was said before me by I-don't-remember-who, it is better to teach >someone how to catch fishes instead of giving a fish to that person.
That was Jesus, wasn't it?
I want you safe. You perform a VITAL task that I am convinced helps keeps boys safe from potential predators by giving pedophiles and boylovers an outlet for their unique sexual tension. I want to keep the newbies safe. It is so easy for them to make a mistake that can ruin their lives. I feel like what I have tried to create is a DMZ between the danger to you and the danger to them. I am a known quantity, I've been around for a long time and I've developed a reputation as someone who can be trusted to a certain extent. Do you have any objection to me sharing your group information with those I trust, as opposed to the great unwashed masses of those begging in the groups? I look forward to your reply.
THANK YOU for doing what you do.
Doc
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