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In that sense, I think you're right. Great points. Again, thought, if people
like Howard were more positive about new mediums, I think it would help push
things along.
In reply to "Brew" who wrote the following:
> The future of podcasting is dependent on the internet. It won't really
> become the dominant radio format until internet streaming in cars and
> everywhere outside works just like traditional radio or satellite
> radio and is just as cheap. Who knows when that will be? It should
> have already happened, but big corporations and politicians are
> stifling the advancement of internet in this country for their own
> benefit. Other countries are way more advanced.
>
> So Howard is right in his comments as it applies to the current state
> of internet broadcasting. If someone starting out in radio hones their
> skills in traditional radio, it's not a waste. They can then
> transistion to internet radio, if it becomes the standard. I think
> gaining experience in traditional radio versus podcasting is also part
> of Howard's point. You can become more of a professional through
> traditional radio versus podcasting because there are way more
> professionals in traditional radio to learn from.
>
> On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 17:32:27 GMT, Beelzabozo <satan@hell.org> wrote:
>
> > I never said 'make it big' and I'm under no illusions that can happen right
> > now.
> > My point was it's the future, and it would have a better future if
> > innovators
> > like Howard would at least not shit on it.
> >
> > In reply to "dargo" who wrote the following:
> >
> > > On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 21:37:01 GMT, Beelzabozo <satan@hell.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > I listen to podcasts all the time but Howards point is valid you can't
> > > make it "big" in podcasting. Anyone who makes money in podcasting like
> > > Adam Curry or Leo Laporte or Adam Carolla came from radio no one who
> > > started in podcasting has "'made it" big.
> > >
> > > > First of all, I love Howard. I love the show. I listen to every new
> > > > show.
> > > > This
> > > > isn't another stupid "Howard sucks now" rant. Normally, if I disagree
> > > > with
> > > > Howard on something, it doesn't bother me at all. He's funny; I'm
> > > > entertained
> > > > and I don't have to agree with everything he says. Fine.
> > > >
> > > > My problem is when he goes off on podcasting. This is one area where he
> > > > just
> > > > doesn't get it. He hasn't kept up on what's been happening with
> > > > podcasting
> > > > and
> > > > he somehow fails to see it's potential. I think he's just blind by the
> > > > fact
> > > > he's
> > > > been doing it most of his life, against all odds, and managed to stay on
> > > > top. He
> > > > took a major risk going to Satellite but he proved that people will pay
> > > > for
> > > > good
> > > > entertainment, and even adopt a new medium. Podcasting wasn't really a
> > > > thing
> > > > until a little later.
> > > >
> > > > That's why it's so strange when he talks about podcasting. It's really
> > > > the
> > > > next
> > > > most logical evolutionary step of broadcasting. Of course everything is
> > > > going to
> > > > the internet. Just like with the record business, distribution and
> > > > production
> > > > are no longer the realm of professional studios and multi-million dollar
> > > > broadcasting equipment, special licenes and stupid censorship. I think
> > > > the
> > > > terminology also presents a perceptual problem. These days "podcasting"
> > > > just
> > > > means "internet based show." I think if it were dicussed on those terms,
> > > > Howard
> > > > might be more open to the idea.
> > > >
> > > > If things had worked out differently and kept Howard on terrestrial
> > > > radio
> > > > for
> > > > say, another 10 years, who knows? Maybe he would have chosen to go the
> > > > internet
> > > > route. It's where everything is heading. Satellite radio is great but it
> > > > has
> > > > no
> > > > real future. As internet gets more available to more people for less
> > > > money,
> > > > expensive to maintain systems like satellites lose their market value
> > > > pretty
> > > > quickly.
> > > >
> > > > So I think it's partly a form of jeaoulsy (understandably so) that it's
> > > > now
> > > > just
> > > > a matter of how good you are and how compelling your content is. You
> > > > don't
> > > > have
> > > > to toil, working for $97 a week on a shit radio station for 20 years
> > > > before
> > > > you
> > > > can gain an audience. Now it's a matter of how much effort you put into
> > > > production, and self promotion. It's possible now to make a living
> > > > creating
> > > > YouTube videoes. It doesn't mean you'll make $500 million a year but I
> > > > can
> > > > see
> > > > how that might be more attractive than a regular 9-5 flipping burgers.
> > > >
> > > > We don't need the resources of a big corporation anymore. That of course
> > > > means
> > > > there will be a lot more garbage out there, but that also means there's
> > > > the
> > > > potential for a lot more really good stuff. I've found several podcasts
> > > > that
> > > > are
> > > > on par with HSS when it comes to production quality. They may not have a
> > > > big
> > > > crew and all their resources, but just as Howard proved what he proved
> > > > when
> > > > he
> > > > went to satellite, podcasters have proven their medium is just as legit
> > > > as
> > > > any
> > > > other and is objectively the future of broadcasting.
> > > >
> > > > Howard has always been an innovator and a risk taker. It's disheartening
> > > > to
> > > > hear
> > > > him lambast something that is right in line with the ethos that made him
> > > > the
> > > > King of All Media.
> > > >
> > > > I usually just pass it off. It's Howard Stern but it's still just one
> > > > man's
> > > > opinion, and I thought he was pretty much the only one who had that
> > > > position.
> > > > Now that I heard this guy Brent, who sounds like a pretty together guy,
> > > > spew
> > > > the
> > > > same ignorance as Howard on the subject. Podcasts aren't going anywhere?
> > > > Um,
> > > > no,
> > > > "Brent" you're wrong.
> >
> >
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