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The future of podcasting is dependent on the internet. It won't really
become the dominant radio format until internet streaming in cars and
everywhere outside works just like traditional radio or satellite
radio and is just as cheap. Who knows when that will be? It should
have already happened, but big corporations and politicians are
stifling the advancement of internet in this country for their own
benefit. Other countries are way more advanced.
So Howard is right in his comments as it applies to the current state
of internet broadcasting. If someone starting out in radio hones their
skills in traditional radio, it's not a waste. They can then
transistion to internet radio, if it becomes the standard. I think
gaining experience in traditional radio versus podcasting is also part
of Howard's point. You can become more of a professional through
traditional radio versus podcasting because there are way more
professionals in traditional radio to learn from.
On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 17:32:27 GMT, Beelzabozo <satan@hell.org> wrote:
>I never said 'make it big' and I'm under no illusions that can happen right now.
>My point was it's the future, and it would have a better future if innovators
>like Howard would at least not shit on it.
>
>In reply to "dargo" who wrote the following:
>
>> On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 21:37:01 GMT, Beelzabozo <satan@hell.org> wrote:
>>
>> I listen to podcasts all the time but Howards point is valid you can't
>> make it "big" in podcasting. Anyone who makes money in podcasting like
>> Adam Curry or Leo Laporte or Adam Carolla came from radio no one who
>> started in podcasting has "'made it" big.
>>
>> > First of all, I love Howard. I love the show. I listen to every new show.
>> > This
>> > isn't another stupid "Howard sucks now" rant. Normally, if I disagree with
>> > Howard on something, it doesn't bother me at all. He's funny; I'm
>> > entertained
>> > and I don't have to agree with everything he says. Fine.
>> >
>> > My problem is when he goes off on podcasting. This is one area where he just
>> > doesn't get it. He hasn't kept up on what's been happening with podcasting
>> > and
>> > he somehow fails to see it's potential. I think he's just blind by the fact
>> > he's
>> > been doing it most of his life, against all odds, and managed to stay on
>> > top. He
>> > took a major risk going to Satellite but he proved that people will pay for
>> > good
>> > entertainment, and even adopt a new medium. Podcasting wasn't really a thing
>> > until a little later.
>> >
>> > That's why it's so strange when he talks about podcasting. It's really the
>> > next
>> > most logical evolutionary step of broadcasting. Of course everything is
>> > going to
>> > the internet. Just like with the record business, distribution and
>> > production
>> > are no longer the realm of professional studios and multi-million dollar
>> > broadcasting equipment, special licenes and stupid censorship. I think the
>> > terminology also presents a perceptual problem. These days "podcasting" just
>> > means "internet based show." I think if it were dicussed on those terms,
>> > Howard
>> > might be more open to the idea.
>> >
>> > If things had worked out differently and kept Howard on terrestrial radio
>> > for
>> > say, another 10 years, who knows? Maybe he would have chosen to go the
>> > internet
>> > route. It's where everything is heading. Satellite radio is great but it has
>> > no
>> > real future. As internet gets more available to more people for less money,
>> > expensive to maintain systems like satellites lose their market value pretty
>> > quickly.
>> >
>> > So I think it's partly a form of jeaoulsy (understandably so) that it's now
>> > just
>> > a matter of how good you are and how compelling your content is. You don't
>> > have
>> > to toil, working for $97 a week on a shit radio station for 20 years before
>> > you
>> > can gain an audience. Now it's a matter of how much effort you put into
>> > production, and self promotion. It's possible now to make a living creating
>> > YouTube videoes. It doesn't mean you'll make $500 million a year but I can
>> > see
>> > how that might be more attractive than a regular 9-5 flipping burgers.
>> >
>> > We don't need the resources of a big corporation anymore. That of course
>> > means
>> > there will be a lot more garbage out there, but that also means there's the
>> > potential for a lot more really good stuff. I've found several podcasts that
>> > are
>> > on par with HSS when it comes to production quality. They may not have a big
>> > crew and all their resources, but just as Howard proved what he proved when
>> > he
>> > went to satellite, podcasters have proven their medium is just as legit as
>> > any
>> > other and is objectively the future of broadcasting.
>> >
>> > Howard has always been an innovator and a risk taker. It's disheartening to
>> > hear
>> > him lambast something that is right in line with the ethos that made him the
>> > King of All Media.
>> >
>> > I usually just pass it off. It's Howard Stern but it's still just one man's
>> > opinion, and I thought he was pretty much the only one who had that
>> > position.
>> > Now that I heard this guy Brent, who sounds like a pretty together guy, spew
>> > the
>> > same ignorance as Howard on the subject. Podcasts aren't going anywhere? Um,
>> > no,
>> > "Brent" you're wrong.
>
>
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