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Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 06:18:03 -0400
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On 05 Jun 2009 15:50:17 GMT, JimB0ss (no@spam.org) wrote:
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>Hi there, Free Agent!
>
>First off, love your work here ), especially Bergman's 'Hour of the Wolf'.
Glad you liked it. I couldn't begin to list all of yours that have
been welcome. The 2nd disk of La Haine worked out nice, e.g since
only disk 1 was posted before. The Benjamin Button set was nice treat
and the heads up on Bottle Rocket worked out well -- just to name a
few off the top.
>
>About those BDs:
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>When there's '720p.BluRay.x264' or '1080p.BluRay.x264' mentioned in the title, then it's a rip from BlueRay disc,
>much like there were\are dvdrips from dvdr discs. So most of the time it's just a movie, without menus. They're
>usually made to fit one or several dvd5 or dvd9. There are already at least a hundred full copies of BD disc readily
>available on Usenet (including criterions), but they're quite large, to say the least -- around 25-45 gigs a pop.
>Those contain everything: menus, bonuses, dozens of audio and subtitle tracks. The problem with them is storage
>since blank BD discs are quite expensive for now. But if you burn that 40 gig file onto BD disc you can certainly
>watch it on BD player or on your computer.
>
>tell a difference from a whole BD. And you can easily split them via MKVtoolnix and store into dvd5s.
>Yeah, and the quality is quite phenomenal.
I agree. I've been getting some 720p/1080p materials -- tv show d/l's
and one or 2 movies from usenet and can certainly see the difference
even on a 1040x768 20" computer monitor.
But for enjyable movie watching, I've become used to being able to
control things with a good remote control like on a dvd player, and
have chapter stops, be able to back up a few frames easily-- things
that just don't work out well with avi, mp4 or mkv files on a computer
media player like vlc, nero showtime, or media player classic.
I don't have a Bluray player yet, but like dvd players eventually
added divx/xvid capability, I'd expect that in time there should be
players that would play these widely availble mk4 files But even avi
files played on a dvd player can't be backed up one or a few frames to
see the detail of something.
So avi, mp4, and mkv, movies that I really want, I usually end up
converting to dvd-- and it's a hassle. I much prefer to find dvd rips
in dvd format (and the same would go for bd).
What I'd want to do at this point with Blurays is be able to burn them
to dvd5/9's in AVCREC format which (as I understand it) the newer
bluray players support.-- (from what I heard avcrec (not avchd) is a
bd licensed format which permits the media to be dvd5's and dvd9's.)
One issue is whether it's posssible to burn the dvds on a dvd burner
so that a bluray player will play them (in hi def of course)
And assuming that it is feasible and there are posts of BD discs,
then I'd think I should be able to shrink them or split them into
dvd5/9's the same is I do with dvd posts w/o going through long
conversions. The point is that the h264 format is supposedly more
efficient than mpeg2 and makes it feasible to put the higher
resolution and data rate of hi def onto dvds acceptably.
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>a .mkv format chosen for them, which makes it impossible to play those files on dvd or standalone bluray players.
But there's nothing to prevent bluray players from supporting playback
of mkv's if there's was demand for it. DVD players eventually added
support for divx and xvid avi's. Right now there is a low-end WD
player which plays back mkv's mp4's and other files onto tv's --
problem is it's got a really crappy remote control and it doesn't
support playback of optical media -- dvd's or bd's.-- it's geared to
playback from hard disks only.
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>to watch them on computer.
So it sounds like your not playing these hi-def movies on a bluray
player or converting them at this point.
>(that is two video tracks) in one file.
I agree with that. Mkv supports chapter stops, but from what I've
seen, posters aren't using them.
>
>There was a nice database leak a few weeks back containing all HD scene releases to date. You can look for
>released on BluRay.
>
>either a.b.hdtv or a.b.hdtv.x264. The 720p-1080p are almost exclusively posted in a.b.hdtv.x264.
Sounds good.
>
>opinion.
>
>To play .mkv my personal recommendations would be: Nero Showtime, ZoomPlayer Pro & VLC Media Player.
I've used them except ZoomPlayer Pro, I'll have to take a look at
that one.
>If you wanna mount full BD rips and watch them on your computer I would suggest using CyberLink Power DVD.
I don't think I want to do a lot of that. I'm more interested in
building a library and am not sure if hi def is really feasible to be
doing regularly at this point or not. From what I gather most guys
who are d/l'g these hi def posts are just watching them on computers
or from computers hooked up to tvs with hdmi.
Perhaps if I could find an acceptable remote control/computer player
combination that is as functional as a dvd remote, I'd feel
differently about computer playback.
>To rip, clone, burn BD I would recommend DVDFab 6.
I'll make a note of that one.
>
>Hope that helps.
Certainly does, thanks.
>
>Please post more Criterions ))
I will when I can find them.:)
>
Free Agent
PS I just did some price checking and it looks like BD burners are now
under $200 (some closer to $100) and BD SL (25GB) disks can be found
in 15 packs for about $3 apiece (though Verbatim are a lot more).
So when I'm finding DVD9's for around $1.25-1.50, BD's with 2.5
capacity at $3 don't seem unreasonable -- that is if Memorex are okay
to use with BD. (With DVD's I tend to stick with Verbatim and for
dvd9's I only use Verbatim -- nothing else works ).
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