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Subject: To Mike - Wow! Thanks! but... ;-) (0/1)
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THANK YOU!! Great tip about how to find things. I have been out of
touch with the computer culture from 2005 until just 2 or 3 years ago,
as previously referenced, so there are lots of things and tools and
web tricks that I'm still learning. It was wanting to get back into
the newsgroups that started it, but it keeps evolving as I discover
more stuff, eBooks galore to self-educate up the wazoo. And YouTube
is FABULOUS. After I found Lemmings, I wondered if it was available
on dvd and searched, and no, it isn't, but youtube does have it.
I have attached 4 images. The first two show my result from trying
your suggestion. You see I got one hit on "R.E.M.". I love them, so
I'm getting it shortly, and thank you for the tip!!
but...
there is always a "butt" in pretty much everything I am aware of...
The other two images show something I just got, a one hour BBC
interview/documentary with tons of live concert footage across several
years, with either long hair or baldy singing his heart out. This was
posted by JBinUp.com on April 2011. Why didn't allfilled.bot.nu find
that as well, since it is obviously there? That was what made me want
to search for it, just to see, and it failed. Thus painful as it be,
I still will continues with dealing with the mountains of headers to
look for gold! ;-)
Another reason I really appreciate your tip was that I have been
wondering why people keep putting those numbers at the front of the
subject, so now I know. Note that the 4th image is my result
searching the number from JBinUp's posting. That number must have
expired, but the data is still on Agent's newsserver, at least. :) I
have a love/hate relation with Agent. It has been my email reader
since forever. I was a registered user before version one, 0.47? It
was 1992. It was their ease of use in downloading images that made
everybody love Agent.
gotta get back outside, more to reply later.
notyet (but maybe coming soon)
On Sat, 01 Oct 2016 16:08:51 -0400, mike wrote:
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>Aaawwww friend, you're killing yourself trying to dl all of teevee's
>headers.
>
>First of all, in Agent you can right click on the group and Sample
>headers back 1 day or 1 week or more, you choose.
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>Secondly, use this link to search Teevee, Moovee, FLAC music and porn.
>http://allfilled.bot.nu/
>It's safe and very efficient. Copy the REQID# in a nzb search indexer
>like binsearch or nzbindex and load into agent.
>https://www.binsearch.info/
>http://www.nzbindex.nl/search/?q=&age=&max=25&minage=&sort=agedesc&minsize=&maxsize=&dq=&poster=&nfo=&hidespam=0&hidespam=1&more=1
>You can also search headers of any group using these search engines
>without dl'ing.
>
>I hope this helps you, I would have given up with newsgroups long ago
>without these.
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>-Mike
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>On Sat, 01 Oct 2016 15:21:25 -0400, notyet@here.now wrote:
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>>I wanted to start a new thread since the previous one was overloaded
>>with other topics and other folks who might not be interested.
>>
>>Firstly, in addition to all your efforts to fill this group with
>>worthwhile content, THANKS MUCH for taking the time and effort to
>>respond with useful tips and suggestions, and the encouragement to
>>check the teevee group for more stuff I might like. I had seen you
>>mention this group a few times, but had tried one of the movie groups
>>before and found it too overwhelming and tedious to process. I
>>figured the teevee group would be much the same, and it is. But
>>already I have downloaded many things I didn't have and am delighted
>>to get, so I thank you for the extra push!
>>
>>FYI, I use Forte's Agent both as my newsreader and as my news server.
>>When I clicked to get the headers of teevee, the status line told me
>>it was getting just over a billion possible headers. I knew it would
>>take a while, and let the machine run overnight. My download speed is
>>3.5 Mbps, so not very fast. After ~9 hours of chugging, the progress
>>bar indicated about 10% complete, so I stopped it there to begin
>>exploring the group. I had nearly 9 million headers, covering from
>>Sept. 2009 to early 2012. Typically, I like to sort by author, and
>>try to delete as much crap as possible first, but that isn't practical
>>with this much data. I checked and the DAT file was over 40 Gb, so if
>>I had gotten all the headers, it would have likely overflowed my 500Gb
>>SSD hard drive and crashed. So far, I've just been searching for
>>"BBC" and even that can take 10 minutes between finds, and I'm only
>>about halfway thru the headers on this simple search... anyway, this
>>is why I loved the documentary group so much better, as the vast
>>majority of TeeVee content is not something I would watch, even if I
>>could just flip on the TV! But since you've got me started, and I've
>>already found a few little nuggets of gold in all the rubble, I plan
>>to keep going to see what I can find. (it took me about 2 years to
>>fully parse all the headers in the documentary group, so I'm caught up
>>with that group, at least.)
>>
>>I had never heard of tweaknews, but it certainly looks cheap enough.
>>If I understand you, I just need to get one of the Block Subscriptions
>>to upload, and can continue to use Agent for my downloads. As for
>>whether my identity would be secure with tweaknews, I just don't know
>>enough about how all this works, but odds are, there's probably not a
>>lot of copyright concerns for stuff that was on broadcast tv, like PBS
>>and the BBC... and teevee might be the better place for me to post
>>anyhow, and be lost in the crowd.
>>
>>I got an ebook, Malware Analyst's Cookbook, and chapter one is about
>>how to make yourself anonymous with TOR, and they give links and make
>>it all very easy, except that I've only glanced at the book and not
>>spent the time actually reading and trying what it says, so I don't
>>know if I need to do that or not, but will get to that soon, I hope,
>>as it would make me feel more secure about posting.
>>
>>I love your signature, about the 10 types of people. another favorite
>>siggy I've seen said:
>>
>>In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
>>In practice, there is.
>>
>>also, fyi...
>>
>>extra info, if this should be of interest, some tips about Agent. You
>>use Agent, i think, right? if not, don't bother reading on.
>>
>>for example, I now have about 10% of the headers, how do I get the
>>rest? first, I must process everything I have before getting any
>>more. the reason being that Agent is stupid in some ways. If there
>>are any headers in a group on my machine, and I want to get new
>>headers, Agent takes HOURS to get very few headers, if the group is a
>>large one like teevee or documentaries. If I have processed and
>>deleted everything in the group on my machine, I can get new headers
>>in SECONDS. Big difference. Thus, I must process everything I have
>>from teevee, and have an empty group, BEFORE attempting to get the
>>next block of headers. When I am ready then, I need to select SAMPLE
>>RECENT HEADERS, and calculate how many days to request. What I have
>>ended around February 2012, so I need to count days to Jan 2012, to
>>give a little overlap. I calculated about 1700 days to retrieve.
>>Since I now know, that I can't handle that many days because of the
>>size, I'll stop it after about 10-20% complete, and process that
>>before getting the next block.
>>
>>Agent has lots of stupidities, but I still love it. I used to
>>complain to tech support, but gave up, as their stock answer to
>>everything I reported was that it was too hard to fix, so I learn
>>tricks to manage as best I can. One thing that used to really burn me
>>was using the mouse to select things. It is so handy, I still use it,
>>but have to be very careful, because stupid Agent has a supposed labor
>>saving feature which really sucks! If you are holding the mouse and
>>dragging to select, and let it continue for so many seconds, not many,
>>but I don't know the exact number... what it does is LOCK Agent, and
>>preceed to select everything in the direction you were dragging, which
>>can take a VERY LONG TIME, even hours in these monster big group with
>>thousands of headers (and now millions of headers!). So my fix, since
>>I like to use the mouse as much as I can, is to drag a few seconds and
>>stop and back up a tad, then drag some more, but never for more than 5
>>seconds in one direction... stupid agent, as this is a worthless
>>feature, because there is no need to overload the mouse behavior with
>>this, and anyone who wants to "select all" in a certain direction can
>>easily do that with the keyboard much much faster, Control-Shift- and
>>either Home or End, depending on which you want. I have never ever
>>needed or wanted to do this, actually, so it is a stupid, unneeded
>>feature some butthole programmer tacked on and refuses to back out for
>>fear it would break something else... stupid plus lazy! I am a
>>retired software developer, so bad programming practices especially
>>annoy and frustrate me.
>>
>>Also, I hate the fact that the button to thread articles is turned on
>>automatically when I select to sort things a certain way, which can
>>hide things I'm actually looking for, that often don't belong where
>>the threading feature puts them!? stupid Agent! I have to remember
>>to always click that off when I re-sort headers, because once it is
>>set on, it stays set on. re-sorting a 40 GB dat file is also very
>>time consuming. Date sort is fast, but author sort is very slow,
>>hours, i suppose, i didn't time how long it took...
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