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From: mike
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Subject: Re: Spike - Thanks much!
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2016 16:08:51 -0400
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Aaawwww friend, you're killing yourself trying to dl all of teevee's
headers.
First of all, in Agent you can right click on the group and Sample
headers back 1 day or 1 week or more, you choose.
Secondly, use this link to search Teevee, Moovee, FLAC music and porn.
http://allfilled.bot.nu/
It's safe and very efficient. Copy the REQID# in a nzb search indexer
like binsearch or nzbindex and load into agent.
https://www.binsearch.info/
http://www.nzbindex.nl/search/?q=&age=&max=25&minage=&sort=agedesc&minsize=&maxsize=&dq=&poster=&nfo=&hidespam=0&hidespam=1&more=1
You can also search headers of any group using these search engines
without dl'ing.
I hope this helps you, I would have given up with newsgroups long ago
without these.
-Mike
On Sat, 01 Oct 2016 15:21:25 -0400, notyet@here.now wrote:
>I wanted to start a new thread since the previous one was overloaded
>with other topics and other folks who might not be interested.
>
>Firstly, in addition to all your efforts to fill this group with
>worthwhile content, THANKS MUCH for taking the time and effort to
>respond with useful tips and suggestions, and the encouragement to
>check the teevee group for more stuff I might like. I had seen you
>mention this group a few times, but had tried one of the movie groups
>before and found it too overwhelming and tedious to process. I
>figured the teevee group would be much the same, and it is. But
>already I have downloaded many things I didn't have and am delighted
>to get, so I thank you for the extra push!
>
>FYI, I use Forte's Agent both as my newsreader and as my news server.
>When I clicked to get the headers of teevee, the status line told me
>it was getting just over a billion possible headers. I knew it would
>take a while, and let the machine run overnight. My download speed is
>3.5 Mbps, so not very fast. After ~9 hours of chugging, the progress
>bar indicated about 10% complete, so I stopped it there to begin
>exploring the group. I had nearly 9 million headers, covering from
>Sept. 2009 to early 2012. Typically, I like to sort by author, and
>try to delete as much crap as possible first, but that isn't practical
>with this much data. I checked and the DAT file was over 40 Gb, so if
>I had gotten all the headers, it would have likely overflowed my 500Gb
>SSD hard drive and crashed. So far, I've just been searching for
>"BBC" and even that can take 10 minutes between finds, and I'm only
>about halfway thru the headers on this simple search... anyway, this
>is why I loved the documentary group so much better, as the vast
>majority of TeeVee content is not something I would watch, even if I
>could just flip on the TV! But since you've got me started, and I've
>already found a few little nuggets of gold in all the rubble, I plan
>to keep going to see what I can find. (it took me about 2 years to
>fully parse all the headers in the documentary group, so I'm caught up
>with that group, at least.)
>
>I had never heard of tweaknews, but it certainly looks cheap enough.
>If I understand you, I just need to get one of the Block Subscriptions
>to upload, and can continue to use Agent for my downloads. As for
>whether my identity would be secure with tweaknews, I just don't know
>enough about how all this works, but odds are, there's probably not a
>lot of copyright concerns for stuff that was on broadcast tv, like PBS
>and the BBC... and teevee might be the better place for me to post
>anyhow, and be lost in the crowd.
>
>I got an ebook, Malware Analyst's Cookbook, and chapter one is about
>how to make yourself anonymous with TOR, and they give links and make
>it all very easy, except that I've only glanced at the book and not
>spent the time actually reading and trying what it says, so I don't
>know if I need to do that or not, but will get to that soon, I hope,
>as it would make me feel more secure about posting.
>
>I love your signature, about the 10 types of people. another favorite
>siggy I've seen said:
>
>In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
>In practice, there is.
>
>also, fyi...
>
>extra info, if this should be of interest, some tips about Agent. You
>use Agent, i think, right? if not, don't bother reading on.
>
>for example, I now have about 10% of the headers, how do I get the
>rest? first, I must process everything I have before getting any
>more. the reason being that Agent is stupid in some ways. If there
>are any headers in a group on my machine, and I want to get new
>headers, Agent takes HOURS to get very few headers, if the group is a
>large one like teevee or documentaries. If I have processed and
>deleted everything in the group on my machine, I can get new headers
>in SECONDS. Big difference. Thus, I must process everything I have
>from teevee, and have an empty group, BEFORE attempting to get the
>next block of headers. When I am ready then, I need to select SAMPLE
>RECENT HEADERS, and calculate how many days to request. What I have
>ended around February 2012, so I need to count days to Jan 2012, to
>give a little overlap. I calculated about 1700 days to retrieve.
>Since I now know, that I can't handle that many days because of the
>size, I'll stop it after about 10-20% complete, and process that
>before getting the next block.
>
>Agent has lots of stupidities, but I still love it. I used to
>complain to tech support, but gave up, as their stock answer to
>everything I reported was that it was too hard to fix, so I learn
>tricks to manage as best I can. One thing that used to really burn me
>was using the mouse to select things. It is so handy, I still use it,
>but have to be very careful, because stupid Agent has a supposed labor
>saving feature which really sucks! If you are holding the mouse and
>dragging to select, and let it continue for so many seconds, not many,
>but I don't know the exact number... what it does is LOCK Agent, and
>preceed to select everything in the direction you were dragging, which
>can take a VERY LONG TIME, even hours in these monster big group with
>thousands of headers (and now millions of headers!). So my fix, since
>I like to use the mouse as much as I can, is to drag a few seconds and
>stop and back up a tad, then drag some more, but never for more than 5
>seconds in one direction... stupid agent, as this is a worthless
>feature, because there is no need to overload the mouse behavior with
>this, and anyone who wants to "select all" in a certain direction can
>easily do that with the keyboard much much faster, Control-Shift- and
>either Home or End, depending on which you want. I have never ever
>needed or wanted to do this, actually, so it is a stupid, unneeded
>feature some butthole programmer tacked on and refuses to back out for
>fear it would break something else... stupid plus lazy! I am a
>retired software developer, so bad programming practices especially
>annoy and frustrate me.
>
>Also, I hate the fact that the button to thread articles is turned on
>automatically when I select to sort things a certain way, which can
>hide things I'm actually looking for, that often don't belong where
>the threading feature puts them!? stupid Agent! I have to remember
>to always click that off when I re-sort headers, because once it is
>set on, it stays set on. re-sorting a 40 GB dat file is also very
>time consuming. Date sort is fast, but author sort is very slow,
>hours, i suppose, i didn't time how long it took...
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