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From: Knotty Bitz <knotty@bitz.com>
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Subject: Re: RP_Thx_to_OP_-Beatles - Anthology<- Crap! Can't fix it See inside
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:33:21 -0500
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On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 19:06:55 GMT, RIB <rib@rack.com> wrote:
>In reply to "Knotty Bitz" who wrote the following:
>
>> On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 17:49:15 GMT, RIB <rib@rack.com> wrote:
>>
>> > In reply to "Knotty Bitz" who wrote the following:
>> >
>> > > On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:26:48 -0500, Knotty Bitz <knotty@bitz.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:52:29 GMT, RIB <rib@rack.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > In reply to "Rely" who wrote the following:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Turns out the respondent was right; No Part 8 in my repost from
>> > > > > > 2013.
>> > > > > > Don't know what was done about it back then. But now my only copy
>> > > > > > left is on a dvd that won't copy - fails by every try. Perhaps poor
>> > > > > > dvd.
>> > > > > > Who knows? No point posting advice on codecs. etc. Help is nice
>> > > > > > but need the original file to work with.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I was able to re-D/L my original post so it is still intact. If
>> > > > > > someone
>> > > > > > has
>> > > > > > a copy of episode 8 of "Beatles Anthology" and they'd care to post
>> > > > > > it
>> > > > > > then I'd be happy to recompile a complete set with proper Rars &
>> > > > > > pars
>> > > > > > and repost it once again. I will also ask for a RP on a.b.beatles
>> > > > > > since
>> > > > > > it's my mistake to begin with. Otherwise,....
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > -Andrew
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ------------------------------------
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I have the disc with part 8 on it. I'd have to extract and convert it
>> > > > > first.
>> > > > > Tell me what format you need, baring in mind that my avi conversion is
>> > > > > likely to
>> > > > > be a different size to the ones you have. I was thinking of making
>> > > > > HQDIVX
>> > > > > files
>> > > > > (720 x xxx) from the DVDs and then posting them.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Let me know what you think.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > RIB.
>> > > >
>> > > > To be consistent with parts 1-7, which both Andrew and I have, the
>> > > > part 8 video should be 720x480, 25 fps, xvid. That would make Andrew
>> > > > happy. He wants to repost the whole series and extras - about 12 GB
>> > > > worth.
>> > > >
>> > > > It would make me happy, too, because then I intend to convert the
>> > > > whole thing to H.264, with some cropping and a fix on the AR plus
>> > > > English subtitles. resulting in a post of 4-ish GB
>> > >
>> > > PS, the audio on the other 7 parts was MP3 stereo, 80kbps.
>> >
>> > -----------------------------------------
>> >
>> > In that case it's probably best to post the TS file and let him do his own
>> > coversion. The avi files are enormous. My HQDIVX files would pan out at
>> > about 4
>> > gig too. I would definately not do sound as low as 80kbps.The sound on the
>> > DVDs
>> > is a lot better than that. If you are thinking of converting to H.264 then
>> > you
>> > really do need to convert from the DVD9s.
>> >
>> > RIB.
>> >
>> > RIB.
>>
>> Thanks, I understand. TS would be fine for me. I don't know what sort
>> of tools Andrew has.
>>
>> I would love to do something from the "source" DVDs, with better
>> quality sound and vid, but I don't have those DVDs, and I don't want
>> to DL 16-20 GB to get them. The conversion damage has already been
>> done - to AVIs. I'm just using Handbrake to squash the files down to a
>> more reasonable size for my personal library.
>>
>> KB
>
>------------------------------------------------
>
>I've got the DVD9s somewhere so I'm prepared to convert to AVI and to H.264 and
>then post them here. Do you prefer MKV or MP4 ? I find MKV gives a slightly
>smaller file of the same quality. I also like to do sound passthrough in H.264
>but that does make for a larger file. I'm happy to code to whatever your sound
>preferences are.
>
>I'm a bit busy at the moment so the posts will be a bit sporadic. I'll look at
>the exras later on.
>
>RIB.
>
>
If you're going to do the work, how can I complain? ;-)
You should look at this as a project not just for me and Andrew but
for the community - and do it in the way that best satisfies most
people, using today's standards. (Xvid is so yesterday.) That said, I
can give you my own preferences - but feel free to override them for
the sake of the community (and not getting flamed).
1. I personally prefer MP4 container because that has the broadest
player support, especially with the Apple devices that everybody's
using and iTunes. MKV is popular among nerds who use free, open-source
tools, but the only big advantage I'm aware of is that Bluray players
are required to be able to read MKV. With computers and other devices
you have to use a 3rd-party player on MKV...although I'm hearing that
may change in Windows 10.
2. Whether MKV or MP4, the codec is the same: H.264. For DVD
resolution, I use a compression setting of CRF 24 - admittedly
aggressive, but IMO doesn't affect the video enough to be noticeable.
I like small file sizes. Any part (1-8) should compress the vid down
to about 400-600 MB, versus the 1300 MB for the xvid version. It's a
documentary; therefore much of the footage isn't going to be that
pristine anyway. If you feel CRF 24 is too aggressive for your taste,
than back off to 23.
3. I agree about the audio. 81k is a crime. But I personally would
convert 5.1 AC3 track to 5.1 AAC (rather than pass through). Again,
Thart's for broad compatibility with today's devices/players. I would
set the bitrate down to 384kbps. I'm assuming what you have on the
DVD-9 is a Dolby 5.1.
One more thing: If you haven't used Handbrake before, you might give
it a try. It will rip and encode directly from the DVD,
title-by-title. You can add SRT subtitles at the same time. Once you
get the settings right, Handbrake's a no-brainer.
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