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From: mamaT <mamaT@dunno.com>
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Subject: Re: [attn] ------------------> lulu bluerope81 mamaT___ - husQ.D215 HoopSewGo[x]LenaMattsson.rar (0/5)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:36:31 -0400
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On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:01:23 +0100, memories <meow@meowww.org> wrote:
>On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:04:07 +1000,
>Disorganized: Learner-FileFiddler hopper <Troll5layer@home.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>> mamaT <mamaT@dunno.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:23:02 +1000, hopper
>>><Troll5layer@on.de.road.invalid> wrote:
>>><<Snip>>
>[..]
>>>I am using Agent 5.00/32.1171 and WinRAR
>>>3.62. They are working fine for me (as far as I can tell) but am
>>>wondering if it would be to my advantage to switch to the releases you
>>>have included with the tools? What might the differences be for me?
>>>Thanks =-)
>>>
>>Ok.. first things first.
>>That <agent.ini> file is of no use to you MamaT.
>>
>Your doctored 'agent.ini' file is spyware. Period!
>
>You use "Forte Agent's" Global Search Function to spy on posters.
>Why would someone do that?
I have stayed out of this debate and definitely don't want to be
involved now but.... I have read most of the posts that banter back
and forth because I am one that likes to hear/read both sides and then
come to an educated decision of my own. My question for you memories
is exactly what you ask above.... "Why would someone do that"? I
believe from your posts that your theory is hopper does it to track
users. You believe he does this to "narc" the posters out? To turn
them(the posters) in to the "owners" of the designs posted here? That
doesn't make sense to me because hopper himself has posted things
here, wouldn't that be slitting his own throat? I do not however see
any contributions made by yourself, please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>It is only good for the version of Agent included in the post.
>>The <agent.exe> and the <agent.ini> are there so as to get everyone on the
>>same page when help is _needed_.. just to get going.
>No need to replace the original. Period!
>>When newbs have the basics, then it is encouraged they
>>"do their own thing".
>Smart people start here: http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php
>
>>
>>And that is what the <agent.ini> file is about. Where we have folks who do
>>not have English as a first language or folks who can run Word and Paintshop
>>like a Pro but have never setup a Usenet client, nor know _anything_ about
>>installing programs and configuring them.. those folks, they are the ones
>>the <agent.ini> file is delivered for.. a kinda "lock and load" scenario.
>>Three easy steps kind of thing.
>
>Phlatarse Puppets Only
>==============
>>1. Run the exe as an install.
>>2. Replace the <agent.ini> file with doctored spyware version.
>>3. Add your user name and server details
>>
>>..and start narc testing.
>
>'agent.ini' spyware in action.
>=================
>
>By doing a "Global Search" of Fields:
>
>Organization: LearnerDriver <---------------- Poster is tracked here.
><AND>
>Reply-To: none@net.invalid <---------------- Poster is tracked here.
>
>These Fields will appear in your posts.
I took your advice and did this search. The only 2 posters that
showed up were littlemissme and InternetChick. I also noticed that
LMM has since changed her organization, quite a simple thing to do. I
also noticed she is still here posting so I'm assuming her computer
has yet to blow up. It doesn't stand to reason with me that hopper
would have gone through all that trouble to track only a couple
posters. His changing the ini file does however seem very logical to
me. If someone comes to the US from another country and wants
services from our country we would expect them to learn our language,
yes? If on the other hand, they refused to learn it so they had no
means of communication with our providers, would the providers finally
stop trying to assist them and feel as though they were banging their
head against a brick wall? I have seen hopper take the time to help
many people (including myself), him changing the ini file helps the
new user speak the same "language" as the (help) provider, hence
making the task at hand, whatever it may be, MUCH easier for both
ends.
This is just my take on things after reading all of the posts, not
trying to convince you of a thing only giving you some food for
thought maybe?
>
>Phlatarse aka <hopper/Pixie> can then see you have installed his
>doctored files. And begin tracking you.
Just curious... is there a reason that hopper and pixie may be the
same person? I personally don't believe they are, I see too many
differences in the way they express themselves and the words they use.
But even if they are... does it really matter?
>
>Example below of phlatarse's doctored <agent.ini> file in action.
>
>///////////////////////////// EXAMPLE ONLY \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
>
>From: mamaToHopper <mamaT@phlatarse.puppet.com>
>X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.652
>Newsgroups: alt.binaries.crafts.pictures
>Subject: I confess: I'm a phlatarse puppet posting to lure suckers to
>install the doctored "agent.ini" file.
>Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:23:24 -0800
>Organization: LearnerDriver <-----------------Poster is tracked here.
>Reply-To: none@net.invalid <-----------------Poster is tracked here.
>Message-ID: <example@4ax.com>
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>Lines: 6754
>
>///////////////////////////// EXAMPLE ONLY \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
I'm not certain of other versions but with my version I can change
these with a few simple clicks. As you can see my former posts had
nothing there, and now they have info there. If it's a "forced" field
in some versions what a better email addy to put than none@net.invalid
even a new user would see that it was a NON working email.
Please understand I am not trying to start an argument here. I'm only
expressing my thoughts. With all of the chaos and term oil in the
world today shouldn't we all have a quiet, peaceful place to land?
Even if it is just a group on the internet concerning embroidery. My
grammie always told me I would catch a lot more fly's with honey than
I would with vinegar! The name calling and accusations really don't
help a single soul. When I first came here I had no idea who was a
"troll" and who was safe to listen to. I took my time reading and
soaking it all in. I doubt most people do that, so the bantering just
creates even more confusion for them. If it bothers you so much that
hopper has "doctored the ini" file then take the time to create
tutorials of your own, then the new user can decide for them self
which version of what they choose to use. I myself agree with
Niemand, I seem to get large posts quicker with Newsbin so that's what
I continue to use. I did however want to be a part of this particular
community so I needed to learn the "language" spoken here (Agent). And
I do have to say it's MUCH easier to use than Newsbin when it comes to
reading posts! I'll get off my soapbox now (never meant to get on
it)! Just hoping that some of the drama might calm down and we can
all share and play nice :-D
>
>Download the original from Forte Agent's web site.
>http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php
>
>Accept no substitutes.
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