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From: Dennis <dennis@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.crafts.pictures
Subject: Re: Opening OOP OESD Problem
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:27:12 -0500
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and WHERE is these tutorials you are referring to?
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:37:31 +0930, hopper <Troll5layer@home.invalid>
wrote:
>On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:07:34 -0500, in alt.binaries.crafts.pictures Dennis <dennis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 22:56:52 +0930, hopper <Troll5layer@home.invalid>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:28:32 GMT, in alt.binaries.crafts.pictures Holligan@pompies.ky wrote:
>>>
>>>>Can someone re-send the OOP OESD files if possible. I have the same problem
>>>>as the other respondents.
>>>>I have downloaded them twice and cannot open them wiith any program. I have
>>>>done this hundreds of times in the past but this one has me stumped.
>>>>I keep getting a corrupted file message (both from my newsreader and when I
>>>>attempt it in 4 other unzip and rar programs.)
>>>>In spite of them not being properly enumerated rar files, the Combiner/
>>>>Joiner still cannot join them for some reason.
>>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Hi,, I am coming in late on this one, and
>>>sighing.. beg my pardon.
>>>There are tutorials posted on this topic
>>>and if those having problems both posting
>>>and downloading actually read that advice
>>>the need to individually write the advice up
>>>again on each and every occasion would not
>>>be needed as the questions would not be asked.
>>>
>>>When confronted with a problem one should
>>>recognise that it is not always _you_.
>>>Others will be having the same problem and
>>>have experienced it since uploading and
>>>downloading binary began.
>>>There is why universal advice is written and posted.
>>>
>>>To the problem at hand.
>>>The article numbering for some of Dennis's
>>>posts is all over the shop. Why this is I wont get
>>>into.. but Dennis would be well advised to read up
>>>on how he is queuing his files before posting.
>>>And then run some test posts in a test group.
>>>Dennis is posting through GN so those
>>>on GN will see exactly what he posted. Because
>>>of the article numbering others could see any
>>>variation of whatever.
>>>
>>>So.. how does this help you, Holligan?
>>>It tells you that any downloading software that
>>>automatically joins articles together is going to have
>>>a problem with files posted the way Dennis's are.
>>>To get a successful retrieval your software has
>>>to be able to be made to select each article in
>>>sequential order. A _manual_ operation.
>>>As MamaT has already said, Agent enables this
>>>function of manual handling.. buuuut
>>>even then when doing "Join" you have to eyeball
>>>the list and adjust the order, yourself.
>>>AND
>>>As "niemand" has said, when posts are greater than
>>>20 or so articles this job becomes very tedious, and the
>>>eyes tire. It is often easier just to redownload the whole
>>>thing again.
>>>Unfortunately , as you have found, this will not fix all
>>>series of posts.
>>>
>>>So.. if you are looking at the
>>>"OESD Out Of Production pack PDFs"
>>>post, you will then have to manually check the sequential
>>>order and download those missing articles. If some are
>>>doubled up then you have to delete the doubles.
>>>No small job when 473 articles are listed.
>>>That post is OBZ [one big zip].. so no way would I
>>>waste a minute even looking at it.
>>>If you are looking at the "OESD 11153 Mirror Magic 2 [G].rar"
>>>type posts then you have to manually order each pack and
>>>join them as sets.
>>>Again, a very tedious job, but necessary when the listing is
>>>as it is.
>>>With either of the above nobody is going to get a clean
>>>run using "click n go" for automatic retrieval.
>>>
>>>For what it is worth, this problem occurs regularly with new
>>>posters and is the direct result of downloaders
>>>(and posters checking their work) only ever seeing the total
>>>line count for the whole post -- not having the view set to
>>>show each article.
>>>So as to be very clear on what I am attempting to
>>>communicate I attach a screencap of the
>>>"OESD 11153 Mirror Magic 2 [G].rar" type posting.
>>>
>>>The yENC problem mentioned earlier is something else
>>>and unfortunately something I just do not have time to
>>>address at the moment.
>>>Posting regimes are written in fine detail in the tutorials posted.
>>>Follow those and you will not get these problems. That simple.
>>>
>>I am not a new poster.
>
>I disagree, but you get that when work is reviewed.
>
>>SORRY for the uproar.. and YES I have read the
>>general uplaoding advice numerous times and have applied it over and
>>over through the months.
>>
>I have downloaded some of your posts, and again, I disagree.
>There are several aspects of your posting which are not conducive
>to "good posts" but frankly I have had the debate that many times
>(and in this group) I no longer have the time nor patience to go
>through the "faults" step by step.
>
>>I can't win for lose. people have problems
>>with them being split into smaller chunks for various servers (too
>>many chunks to join.), complain about being too big and can't get the
>>attachments from their provider, complain about how the attachments
>>are packaged (zip or rar), complain about how the attachments are
>>handled in the format (MIME, UUencoded or yEnc). I am not being
>>ungratefull,
>>
>People will complain the minute they cannot get what they want.
>You have learnt that, yes?
>So the solution is in working out what format gives them that.
>I have done this, so have many others, you have yet to achieve that.
>A tip for you is to be careful who you listen to.
>In this group there are many who have no idea of what they download.
>They just posts "thanks" to be polite.This helps nobody.
>
>>BUT don't slam me for applying the advise I was given to
>>help make my uploads universal.
>No one is "slamming you", comment is made, help is given.
>Read it which way you like.. that is what is happening.
>
>>Bottom line is that lately (only the
>>past 30 days) I can not uplaod ANYTHING that is over 500 kb without
>>SOMEONE complaining about it, for what ever reason.
>>
>You will find when you read the tutorials that ~350 is the optimum.
>Some servers will accept up to 1MB but all you need is one person
>not to get what they want and you have trouble.
>Good posting is about avoiding that.
>I post an example I prepared earlier.
>
>>Any more advise to help solve it?
>Check what I posted and compare it to your posts.
>
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