On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:23:47 +0000, walter hynebottom
<walter@homebody.not.invalid> wrote:
This message is way to long to bottom post so i top post.
If you have a machine bought with Vista on it and you want to downgrade to
XP Pro ( any version ) then be very sure you are able to get the drivers for
any pice of hardware installed in your machine for Win XP.
Else you pitch Vista but you end up with a cripples machine because you can
not get the right drivers for XP.
What ever Walter is telling about me you have to take his word for it.
The boys of Retestark ( they are Dutch also ) do a good job in putting a small
as possible windows available in the newsgroups wich is great of course but
that does not mean they also provide you with drivers for the hardware installed
in your computer.
So think twice before you pitch a Vista and Install a XP Pro.
>On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 06:24:00 GMT, "whereami" <whereami@home.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Thanks Walter for being a lifeboat. Will heed advice. Yes, I know how
>>to use restore point, but not much else on Vista.
>>Why is when I tried to access Windows/Temp it said I had no permission
>>was unbelievable to me. It's MY computer! Jusy what's up with Vista?
>
>I join with you in sheer dumbstruck indignation having just read a
>message from that individual. Just what is up with the fellow ES?
>
>Never mind, to give you a very concise answer to the Windows/Temp
>refusal?
>Mr. Gates insists on only allowing Administrators the privilege of
>accessing much of the backrooms of Vista and XP.
>May it be so you own the computer hardware, however you do not
>own the operating system software. Mr. Gates alone decrees whom shall
>access the engine room on your computer. You are aware of Windows
>Update, the umbilical to Microsoft? Bill is there to help You.[hic]
>Bill said your login must say "Administrator". Anything else and the
>privilege to change settings is not allowed to you.
>
>I will be quite frank with you, I cannot help you much beyond what
>I found just in playing with Vista. I do not use that software on any
>computer as a daily regime. Like you I must try and test to discover
>what Vista cannot do.
>Windows 7 is now released and already Microsoft is talking up the
>birth of a successor to Windows 7 .
>Might I suggest to you that with that computer for the right price you
>add some software for the right price?
>My assistant, Igor, a rather agricultural individual with a heart of
>pure gold, has not so long ago delivered his latest masterpiece.
>Tiny XP is the SP3 issue of XP Pro. No "update or "activation" is
>required. The install is a simple 3 step process to a clean disk.
>I include the description Igor has provided. Myself I am most able to
>persuade the brute to upload the work in a quiet place.
>Now, I really must take a powder. The cheek of that ES troglodyte has
>physically shaken my gentle person. I feel positively faint!
>
>.________________________________________________________________________
>
> eXPerience Presents...
>
> Windows TinyXP Rev09
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>
> Thank you for trying TinyXP Rev09...
>
> To install Windows TinyXP from this CD, set your PC
> up so it will boot from the CD-ROM in the PC's BIOS.
>
> You cannot install TinyXP as an "upgrade" from within Windows.
>
> This TinyXP now has a "Repair Option" (Option 9) where you can
>install
> Windows the way you want, your own username, regional and language
> options etc. One file was hacked in this untweaked "attended" version
>so
> that you can see the product key on the actual installation screen as
> you install Windows. The hacked file is for installation purposes
>only
> and never ends up on your system. This #9 option in the boot menu for
>XP
> is the same as option #2 except in #2 it is an unattended
>installation
> and in #9 it is a standard install where you need to click next, etc.
>
> Or you can choose any of the other eight different flavours of
>TinyXP.
> Options 1 to 8 are all unattended and vary in size and whether they
> install with the added drivers or not.
>
> Only install TinyXP onto a freshly formatted partition or hard disk.
> There is no upgrade option available in TinyXP, because the option
> is removed. You do not need any product key in this release - the
> installation of TinyXP is unattended, once you choose the drive or
> partition on which to install TinyXP.
>
> Even on option nine, the product key is filled in for you on the
> screen, you simply click next without having to type a key in.
>
> All installations are set to US English.
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>
> When you boot from this CD you have the following options:
>
> Choosing #1 at the main menu, gives you the following menu:
>
> 1 - TinyXP With IE/OE/WMP (With Added Driverpacks)
> 2 - TinyXP With IE/OE/WMP (Without Added Driverpacks)
> 3 - TinyXP Without IE/OE/WMP (With Added Driverpacks)
> 4 - TinyXP Without IE/OE/WMP (Without Added Driverpacks)
> 5 - TinyXP BARE With IE/OE/WMP (With Added Driverpacks)
> 6 - TinyXP BARE With IE/OE/WMP (Without Added Driverpacks)
> 7 - TinyXP BARE Without IE/OE/WMP (With Added Driverpacks)
> 8 - TinyXP BARE Without IE/OE/WMP (Without Added Driverpacks)
> 9 - TinyXP With Repair Option (Product Key Already Filled In)
>
> Choosing #2 at the main menu, gives you the following menu:
>
> 1 - Acronis Backup + Restore (Safe For Vista)
> 2 - Damn Small Linux v4.3
> 3 - Hiren's BootCD v9.5
> 4 - SpinRite v6.0
>
> Abbreviations from above:
>
> IE ---> Internet Explorer
> OE ---> Outlook Express
> WMP ---> Windows Media Player
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>
> Installations 1 to 8 of TinyXP include the following items,
> which are all automatically installed along with Windows:
>
> Service Pack 3 Final (Build 5512)
> All Hotfixes Up To May 2008
> DirectX DLL Libraries (24 to 36)
> Flash Player v9.0.124.0 (IE) - / - Plugin DLL v9.0.124.0
>(Firefox/Opera)
> Royale Theme (Options 1 to 4) - / - Classic Theme (Options 5 to 8)
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>
> Here is a breakdown of the twelve options:
>
> Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3:
>
> For Microsoft fans...
> Options 1, 2, 5 and 6 all include Internet Explorer Web Browser v6,
> Outlook Express Email Client and Windows Media Player v9. These older
> versions of Internet Explorer and Windows Media Player are what would
> install with Windows XP by default. If you want to install the later
> versions of these programs (Internet Explorer 7 and Windows Media
> Player 11) its no problem, those installers are in the EXTRAS folder
> on the CD to be applied after Options 1,2,5 or 6 have been installed.
> The IE7 and WMP11 installers are silent (just double click the file
> once to install) and they even install the post IE7 and WMP11
> hotfixes! Windows XP is completely up to date and as Bill Gates
> intended.
>
> For people who don't like Microsoft programs...
> Options 3, 4, 7 and 8 do not include Internet Explorer, Outlook
>Express
> or Windows Media Player. Mozilla Firefox v3.0 is included to replace
> Internet Explorer. There are no replacements in these options to
>Outlook
> Express or Windows Media Player. You can just use your own programs
>like
> Mozilla Thunderbird to replace Outlook Expess and Winamp/VLC/MPC to
>play
> audio and video files.
>
> For people who want the most features...
> Options 1, 2, 3, and 4 are as full as this Windows XP could possibly
>be
> made, while still fitting everything onto a 700Mb CD. You still have
> System Restore, games, almost every single service. The only removed
> services are removed because they are annoying, not to save space,
>all
> functionality is still there. All services are set to their default
> settings. This is the recommended installation, the first option,
> because it is the most complete one - with added drivers too.
>
> For people who want a smaller faster leaner BARE installation...
> Options 5, 6, 7, and 8 are as stripped as Windows XP can be made
>without
> losing vital functionality like local networking. Bear in mind that a
> lot of components are removed from these options! For example, games,
> themes, even Windows Firewall is removed. These BARE options still
> support printers, scanners, cameras etc and these installations still
> include MDAC, Jet Database, COM+. These are smaller installs but they
> are still reasonably functional, 99% in fact!
>
> Automatic Driver Installation...
> Options 1, 3, 5 and 7 include drivers to cover the following:
> Broadband
> Chipset
> CPU
> Input (Mice, Keyboards)
> LAN Ethernet
> Monitors
> SATA & Mass Storage
> Scanners
> Sound Cards
> TV cards
> Wireless LAN
>
> No Drivers Included...
> Options 2, 4, 6 and 8 do not contain those drivers - this is in case
> you have SATA problems with options 1, 3, 5, or 7, or if you just
>want
> to install your own drivers.
>
> Repair Option...
> Option 9 is the same TinyXP as option 2 but option 9 is not
>unattended.
> You will need to click "Next" and "OK" a few times whilst it
>installs.
> This is here so you can boot into the "Repair Option" from the CD.
>When
> Windows is unattended like in options 1 to 8, you do not get this
> "Repair Option". You might need it one day.
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>
> Live Rescue Options:
>
> Acronis Backup + Restore...
> Option 1 on the rescue menu allows you to backup your existing
> partition(s) before installing Windows, or you can quickly restore
> a backup made previously with Acronis.
>
> Damn Small Linux v4.3...
> This has to be one of the best things ever created in the world of
> computing! Option 2 is a 50Mb live Linux environment with the ability
> to connect to the internet from within the Linux environment.
>Includes
> Mozilla Firefox web browser and many other tools. What would you do
>if
> you totally lost your Windows install and had to get online to
> troubleshoot the problem? This is where Damn Small Linux comes in.
> NOTE: You might get an SCSI problem when booting into this Damn Small
> Linux, if this happens, type "dsl noscsi" (without quotes) when you
> are loading Linux and it will work. You may need to type this command
> to boot Damn Small Linux in VMware. There is a Damn Small Linux text
> file in the DOCS folder on the CD.
>
> Hirens Boot CD v9.5...
> Option 3 allows you to boot into Hirens Boot CD version 9.5. This is
>a
> massive collection of more then 200 tools! Including Partition Tools,
> Disk Clone Tools, Antivirus Tools, Recovery Tools, Testing Tools,
> RAM (Memory) Testing Tools, Hard Disk Tools, System Information
>Tools,
> MBR (Master Boot Record) Tools, BIOS / CMOS Tools, MultiMedia Tools,
> Password Tools, NTFS, Ext2FS, Ext3FS (FileSystems) Tools, Dos File
> Managers, Dos Tools and Windows Tools. You can boot into Hiren's
> and have access to Norton Partition Magic, Paragon Partition Manager,
> EasyRecovery... please see the Hirens text file that is in the DOCS
> folder on the CD for the full list of tools included in the Hirens
> Boot CD.
>
> SpinRite v6.0...
> SpinRite attempts to recover data from damaged portions of hard disks
> that might not be readable via the operating system. When it
>encounters
> a sector with errors that cannot be corrected by the disk drive's
>error
> correcting code, it tries to read the sector up to 2000 times, and
> tries to determine the most probable value of each bit by comparing
> the results. The data is then saved onto a new block of the same
>disk.
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>
> EXTRAS folder (CD)
>
> This folder contains:
>
> Internet Explorer 7 Silent Installer
> Windows Media Player 11 Silent Installer
> eXPerience Registry Tweaks 2008
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>
> ISO folder (CD)
>
> If you want to make standalone ISO's of any of the nine Windows
> XP installations, you can do this by running one of the batch
> files included in the ISO folder on the CD.
>
> You can also make a separate ISO with the four rescue options
> (Acronis + Damn Small Linux + Hiren's BootCD + SpinRite)
>
> See the ISO folder for more info.
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> HOW TO MAKE A SEPERATE ISO WITHOUT BURNING A CD
> -----------------------------------------------
>
> You can use any of these programs:
>
> Daemon Tools (free)
> Alcohol 120% (not free)
> UltraISO (not free)
>
> Lets use Daemon Tools as an example - install Daemon Tools and mount
> the main ISO file of TinyXP_Rev09. Now open the virtual drive and
> open the ISO folder. Simply click any BAT file to make an ISO.
>
> This is also especially useful if you downloaded a DVD but only have
> a CD player, as long as the DVD in question allows you to create
> standalone ISO files ;)
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>
> OEM folder (CD)
>
> If you want to install the drivers on this CD independently of
> installing Windows, this is now possible by running one BAT file.
> In the OEM folder on the CD you will find a file called:
>
> INSTALL DRIVERS.bat
>
> Run this INSTALL DRIVERS.bat file and sit back whilst the process
>unpacks
> the drivers, then tries to find any drivers you might need
>installing,
> then installs the drivers, then removes the initial drivers that were
> extracted, because they are not needed afterwards.
>
> You can run this INSTALL DRIVERS.bat file anytime, on any x86 Windows
>XP.
>
> Do not move the BAT file from the OEM folder. If the BAT file is not
>left
> where it is inside the OEM folder, it will not work.
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>
> eXPerience folder (Desktop)
>
> Most of these folders contain quick solutions to things that
>otherwise
> would be buried away in the Windows GUI or require DOS style
>commands.
> E.g. "control userpasswords2" will open the screen to change your
> Windows XP login password, or "intl.cpl" runs the "Regional and
> Language Options" from Control Panel.
>
> FOLDERS:
>
> Desktop Icon Layout - Allows you to save your icon setup on the
>Desktop.
> Hibernation - Turns Hibernation on/off with one double click.
> Keyboard Settings - Quick way to open "Regional and language Options"
> Program Links - Download links to many great programs, all freeware.
> Registry Backup - Easily backup your registry in one double click.
> Services Configuration Files - Configure Windows to use less RAM.
> ShrinkXP Scripts - Removal of components whilst Windows is running.
> User Password - Easily change your password for Windows.
>
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>
> Removed Items:
>
> The breakdown of items removed is far too long to list here.
>
> Instead, think about which option you chose (the number)
> for example option 3. So then go to this folder:
>
> ROOT\0003\$OEM$\nLite
>
> In that nLite folder you will find a "Last Session.ini" file for
>nLite.
>
> This file lists every component that is removed. If the item is not
>in
> the list then the feature is still present in Windows.
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>
> Statistics:
>
> OPTION 1/2 (With IE/OE/WMP)
> RAM Usage On First Installation............ 85 Mb
> WINDOWS Folder............................. 561 Mb
>
> OPTION 3/4 (Without IE/OE/WMP)
> RAM Usage On First Installation............ 75 Mb
> WINDOWS Folder............................. 517 Mb
>
> OPTION 5/6 (BARE, With IE/OE/WMP)
> RAM Usage On First Installation............ 60 Mb
> WINDOWS Folder............................. 488 Mb
>
> OPTION 7/8 (BARE, Without IE/OE/WMP)
> RAM Usage On First Installation............ 50 Mb
> WINDOWS Folder............................. 459 Mb
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>
> Don't forget To Join The Forum @ SnipeR's Redemption Network:
>
> http://www.retestrak.nl/Board/
>
> Enjoy this fine release from eXPerience
>
> Build Date: 22nd May 2008
>
> Release Date : Spring 2008
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>
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