On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 17:40:51 -0500, vibrational@theuniverse.com wrote:
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>>>As for posting "old sets"??
>>>Newbs arrive every single day. There is always something new for them
>>>in the old stuff.
>>YES! It may be 'old stuff' to veterans, but it's not 'old stuff' to any of
>>us who have just discovered this NG. Or hell, in my case, just recently
>>discovered Usenet altogether. I often wonder when I see so may requests go
>>unfulfilled "If someone out there has these sets, why do they not post
>>them?" It seems hard to believe that not even one member who reads this
>>group has those designs.
>
>Agree with these comments, however when asking why don't more people
>post their designs...
>
Not our call. People post what they want, when they want and if/when
they can.
This is not a Trading Post.
You don't have to have anything to offer to join.
>well the posting police will get ya! Seriously, I
>have attempted to learn about how to post correctly, but I am sceered
>cause the bad people will say in scarcastic and hard to understand
>language and abbreviations why it is bad or wrong...
>
Start out small and work your way up to bigger posts.
You are not "sceered" of the "bad people", you are scared of what you
don't know yet.
There is actually a quiet test group used by this group --
alt.binaries.vj.tester
where your post won't disappear in the mire of millions of other
testers. That group is usually checked for newb questions, but if no
one answers the doorbell, then yell out in here and someone will run
over there for a look.
It is a group for testing a post. Nothing to be "sceered" about.
If you mean "posting police" as in those trying to help people post
more intelligently, that's a bit rough!
People who post like morons and then defend that post are treated
same.
People who make a genuine mistake and take action to make their own
posting experience better don't get treated like morons.
It's the making a mistake and then defending it that is stupid.
If you mean "posting police" as in prosecution, mostly those are
nymshifting troublemakers.
The only person that can set a prosecution in place is the
author/digitiser of a design set that is posted.
You can be canned from your Server for posting spam, or constantly
posting in a delinquent matter. THAT is what Hopper is trying to turn
around.
But when it comes to the copyright stuff, the original auther of the
matter posted must be the one to send His/Her case to the Server.
At the moment, that's expensive for small time digitisers.
They can make a lot of noise. They can send you an email if you are
stupid enough to post your real email address and they can generally
get you to back off that way.
In here, that has been tried. It was made easy by people displaying
their real email addresses and by swapping emails with people who
sounded "genuine".
Tis why such a big deal is made out of email addresses. You never know
who is on the other end or who they pass your info onto.
>Then add in the hoppers/pixie that are the same person???
>
That actually started about 2006.
A Lady called Digi was also included in the original triangle.
Herself was Canadian.
Whilst Hopper and I share a common accent, born of our sharing the
same continent, that is where the physical similarities end.
I have much more hair on my head, and He has much more hair on His
legs... I'm sure! /laff
I have learnt everything I know about Usenet from reading the tips He
offers about posting and keeping myself safe in here.
If I didn't understand anything in the T00ls or any of His tips, I
asked. I still have not one tenth the Internet knowledge He possesses.
There are not many dumb questions with Hopper. If you explain what you
don't understand, He usually sees straight away what bit you are not
getting.
Yes. He can be abrasive. But this is a text environment. You read it
in the mood you are in. Not necessarily the spirit it is offered.
That cannot be avoided.
He is a Teacher, not a Counsellor.
So Big Girl Panties, a coffee and a biccie (cookie) are a must when
reading!
Usenet is a serious place. Serious as in it was built on certain
posting rules. Those were designed to get the best result for
everyone. Hopper did not make these rules. They just are.
He follows them. To the letter.
This is not a Yahoo group. It's not instant like email.
It's not "I'll have one like that, but in pink, please".
>One thing I have learned is
>to leave my headers on, that way I can see more information on just
>who is who...however the other day I was trying to decipher just who
>was writing a note and the contents was exactly the same, with totally
>different headers. Wierd.
>
Yep... weird alright... That's GB. Or Gymmy Bob.
Thickhead will suffice... /laff
He has been here forever. He thinks we care.
He uses Outlook Express and Teranews as his server (at the moment).
You will easily tell it's him and not the real Hopper because of the
above two things.
Hopper would NEVER use Outlook Express, nor Teranews.
The cut and paste rubbish is a clue. A big one.
GB cuts and pastes stuff simply because he can't think of anything
original to say himself... /grin
>I recently swithched from Giganews to Sonic
>news because I had read that Giganews will give out users information
>and Sonic will not...don't know for sure if this is true, but monthly
>cost is lower too, however when retrieving headers for this NG
>(newsgroup) I used to see 40 to 50 thousand lines, now the most I can
>retrieve is 500. I did send a note to Sonic and I check what they said
>could be limiting, but still the same...I think programming was easier
>than figuring out these News groups!
>
Giganews will retrieve any crap post. Sonic will retrieve correctly
posted stuff.
Perhaps what you are seeing is just how much badly posted stuff
arrives here now.
Hopper would say it better'n me. He knows all the ins and outs of the
various Servers.
>OK I am done! Thanks for reading...just have to vent a little...phew
>feel much better!
>
There has been a shift in the force this week for this group.
A good one.
People reading text posts and not just posts with attachments to them
is helping. One won't learn if one doesn't read.
There will always be trolls like GB. Usenet is his world. His very
small world.
Sometimes I have a crack at him, if I'm really bored, or he's
cultivating a newb with false information. Otherwise I find some
ironing to do... much more interesting!
Take care. Hunt up alt.binaries.vj.tester and have a practice posting.
You won't get "eaten" over there. I promise! It's a group for learning
how to post and testing posts.
Pixie :-))
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