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From: fushtas <fushtas <veronika@cuteemb.org>>
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Subject: Re: Reply to hopper
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:33:02 -0500
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>You (fushtas) said;
>In all fairness to me, giganews is where I got the instructions for
>using OE.
>
>I know.I said the server is "fine", as in "delivery".
>That is the extent of "fine".
>The rest.. well, different strokes for different folks.
>I do not and would not use Giganews.
>Stick around and you may discover why.
* Good grief I do not have the patience, time or inclination to,
"stick around to discover why" Just spill the beans and tell me what
NG is your recommendation.
>********************************************************
>The first news server I used was xennews and that is how I started
>using grabit.
>
>>If you are saying "X-News" , then.. yes, I know that
>"xennews"..?.. I have never heard of that one, sorry.
* LINK http://www.xennews.com/
>*********************************************************
>Now after installing Agent and comparing the 3 of them I really do
>not see where I have missed out on "a lot" of anything.
>
>[cough]
>... are you able to now read the headers for a post?
* Yes And that improves my usenet experience how?
>***********************************************************
>I would be very interested in you posting something that you are sure OE
>and grabit do not post in their entirety and do a comparison of the 3
>using just that post to see what I am gaining by using Agent.
>A more fruitful path is to just sit down and use Agent.
>You will soon see yourself all of the advantages
>in being able to read a group... any group..
>Sorry I don't do others Usenet work for them.. IF you
>don't trust what I am saying..?.. then do nothing.
>I am simply letting you know.. what you do about it is
>entirely up to you.
* UM ok I didn't know that was a request for you to do my usenet
homework. ;)
>************************************************************
> I did get your design attempt of the CCOA and also Herbs. I
>appreciate you and Herbs efforts greatly. I will have to play around
>with both of them a bit, because I like your shield (minus the "Aussie
>Made" emblem) and Herbs wreath.
>
>It is my stance I am entitled to place "Aussie Made" on
>all my work (I do forget to, sometimes).. IF folks
>cannot figure out how to not sew that bit of the work
>then they aren't sewers.. IMVFHO... OMMV.
* I had no problems removing your "Aussie Made emblem" from the
design,
(I prefer to lose it before I sew) just like I will have no problems
merging your shield with Herbs wreath for an almost perfect design.
>*************************************************************
>To answer a few of your Q's
>
>>Were you around for the Gymmy Bob/ JP Bengi years
>>here in ABCP?
>No I was not
>
>Then you haven't seen a millisecond of what he creates
>as confusion. Expect more (confusion) unless you do
>something about it. He is using more than one name to
>post into ABCP with right now, and has for some time
>now.
* First of all what can I "do" about it?
Perhaps you can enlighten me as to why I should concern myself, and
seriously why I would want to do anything about "it".
Alright I was confused, but honestly no big deal. He ( loose use)
portrayed himself as you and I replied and I questioned it.
You did reply,
for me no harm - no foul.
I got my answer and I am satisfied.
I will expand on this further down the post.
>***************************************************************
>>Were you here when IT was posting as "Taz is a TWAT"
>>just a few months ago??
>Um yes I was around but I am sure it didn't interest me to read it.
>
>So now you find yourself where you are simply because
>you didnt pay attention to how the group is running..
>right?
* For the love of Pete all I wanted to know is if some one could
digitize the CCOA for me!
Crap it isn't even for me, it is for a good friend of mine.
Seriously why should I pay attn to _ " the little girl biotch cat
fights"_ that seems to be taking place here?
I am sorry I do have a life, and reading every single post made in
every single "forum" is not do-able.
I just can not allow myself to be sucked into the drama of the -
" '90's chat rooms".
>*****************************************************************
>>He (loose use) is laughing fit to bust--> at you<-- ..
>* ?
>
>He (loose use) "sucked you in". You used his post to
>reply to me yet you had no idea to whom you were
>actually addressing the post.. right?
>... ergo.. he confused you, sucked you into his stupid
>game.
* Ah Hah! As I said earlier no harm - no foul.
So I was sucked in?
You did reply. You did set it straight.
Who gives a crap?
I am mostly confused by you.
You directed me to the ABCP tools stash and I did install it.
This is where the confusion begins...
Why isn't wannabe hopper using Agent to make posts?
>***************************************************************
>ummmm..
> /thinking
>Whatever you are reading this post with, try using this
>MiD to see what _I_ **did** post. That may help you
>understand.
<gQqgo.97689$zE6.92437@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com>
>IT responded TWICE to that post.. see if you can find
>BOTH of those and quote the MiDs.
>There is some "home work" for you :->
* Sorry not tonite.
>****************************************************************
>>Just so you know I know he knows I know and told you I know.
>OK so he knows that you know and I really don't know but don't tell
>him that I don't know. Let him believe I do know that you know that
>he knows that you know that you told me and then we all know. ;)
>
>That would be fine only this is a public forum and it
>really should not be necessary for ME to SAY anything
>to YOU as I should *know* you know I know you know he
>knows I know you know ... and he knows this also.
>Some (most) folk spend their time learning the little
>tips and tricks of Usenet to either help themselves be
>more efficient or to help others.. some never bother
>learning more than how to post text so as to harass
>groups as a "fun thing" to do.
>The guy (loose use) may be psychotic, illiterate and
>dyslectic.. he isn't blind.. K?
* UGH yes
I do KNOW this is a public forum.
I do not KNOW, But
I do BELIEVE,
that you spend way too much time and energy on Wannabe Hopper.
>******************************************************************
>>The edjut is doing a "cut and paste" on my posts
>>and then editing the words he (loose use) wants to
>>change
>>You understand that much?
>Yes I think I understand. According to you, he (loose use) this
>"fanboi" person is a wannabe hopper? Do I have that right?
>
>Most definitely zealously jealous, yes.
>Why..?..
* Errrm I never asked Why.
Why (did I not ask why?)
Because I really do not give a rats arse why.
that's why!
>***********************************************************
> primarily because when IT started using Usenet
>"someone somewhere" gave him a spanking over his little
>stupidities which he refused to correct.
* Just a guess... Perhaps you?
>***********************************************************************
>MOE users are usually greeted in this manner.. standard
>Usenet introduction in many many groups.
>Generally they are that "thick" it takes a few lessons
>to get them to see MOE fails at reading NGs.
>btw
* (by the way)... TEXTING FOR DUMMIES 101
> he is still doing some of it today.. just ask IT
>about "top posting"!!
>That will "set him off"... ranting <BFG>
>oH and never mention "sig dlmt".. that mystery fairly
>pops his cork..!!
* I am a single female that hasn't been in a relationship for a little
while (ok fine a long while)...
tell me I can "pop a man's cork" and I am soooo there!
>**************************************************************
>* Why is wannabe hopper laughing at me?
>
>You bite.. that simple.
* Good come back ;) -----> Argent lyrics "Hold your head up"
>**************************************************************
>FUshtas
>
>Yeh I get the FU bit of it... the rest is waaay too
>cryptic for a cursory glance.
>heh.. good luck running that nym <BG>
* Totally and Completely personnal reasons for the name
I am woman feel my scorn :D
FUshats
cheers
--
hopper
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:24:00 +1000, hopper
>fushtas <fushtas <veronika@cuteemb.org>>wrote:
>>
>>On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 09:34:19 -0400, "hopper"
>>
>>>
>>>news:WfZgo.99444$zE6.40494@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com...
>>>"fushtas" <veronika@cuteemb.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>FYI
>>>Thank you.. I and others have borne much waiting...
>>>
>>>>I use Giganews
>>>>
>>>The server is fine.
>>>>
>>>> with Outlook Express.
>>>>
>>>There is your problem.. and the lever my fanboi uses to
>>>create confusion.
>>>Your post contains text you attribute to me, yet _I_
>>>did not post ('say') such a thing.
>>>
>>>OE misses plenty.. you just do not know what
>>>to look for because in all the 'lessons' and tips
>>>posted you have been blinded, by OE.
>>>(MSOE - MOE)
>>>And you cannot get MOE to do half of what is
>>>needed to know different, MOE is crippled as a
>>>reader of Newsgroups. That simple.
>>>Hence the acronym, MOE.. one of the
>>>Three Stooges.. the other two urge you to use it.
>>>
>>>Nothing "new".. btw. All of this is old news .. all
>>>around Usenet. MOE sucks... bigtime.
>>>
>>>Get a newsreader.
>>>
>>>Outlook is not a newsreader.
>>>Grabit is not a newsreader,.
>>>
>>>
>>>>I just like using
>>>>Grabit to download and I don't see from the outlook express
>>>> that I am missing anything.
>>>>
>>>huh..?? you are using a binary downloading tool
>>>to grab files
>>>AND
>>>reading text in a newsgroup with an eMail program!!
>>>
>>>by the way (btw)
>>>How could you possibly know what you
>>>are missing when _neither_ list the posts
>>>in their entirety?
>>>
>>>Are you able to see these lines in one of 'my' posts
>>>when using MOE?
>>>
>>>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express
>>>6.00.2900.5931
>>>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE
>>>V6.00.2900.5931
>>>
>>>Message-ID:<pLrgo.100755$lS1.42389@newsfe12.iad>
>>>X-Complaints-To: abuse@teranews.com
>>>NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2010 13:23
>>>
>>>Those lines are in every post my fanboi forger makes.
>>>NONE of them are in any genuine "hopper" post.
>>>All of those will be read in MOE as exactly how my
>>>fanboi urges you to read them... blind.
>>>
>>>IF you can figure out how to make the above lines
>>>(headers) display in MOE your next move is to go
>>>start looking at old posts. You will soon see what is
>>>>going on with the edjut hugging my every post.
>>>>
>>>He (loose use) is laughing fit to bust--> a- ..t you<-
>>>Just sw I .o you know I know he knows I know and
>>>told youkno
>>>
>>>One example of what you miss?
>>>You got to see the digitising I uploaded for you some
>>>days ago now?
>>>
>>>X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576
>>>English (0rstrelehan)
>>>Subject: Re: Correction Cuban Coat of
>>>Arms "Digitizing REQ" plz see inside (1/2)
>>>
>>>Message-ID:<uxcgo.103056$mN7.63660@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com>
>>>Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2010 06:03:53 +1000
>>>
>>>The above is my binary post containing your file.
>>>I recall Herb trying to reach you too.. you get those
>>>posts??
>>>
>>>>Also not sure what this whole
>>>>hopper thing is all about, you (hopper?) give me a tip and
>>>>also say that you (hopper?) have no value.
>>>>
>>>The edjut is doing a "cut and paste" on my posts
>>>and then editing the words he (loose use) wants to
>>>change
>>>You understand that much?
>>>
>>>>If confusion is what you are after you have succeeded - I
>>>>have no clue what you are trying to tell me. Would
>>>>welcome and appreciate any clarification :)
>>>>
>>>Were you around for the Gymmy Bob/ JP Bengi years
>>>here in ABCP?
>>>Were you here when IT was posting as "Taz is a TWAT"
>>>just a few months ago??
>>>
>>>I cannot help you (nobody can) until you tell us (me)
>>>what you see in a post. You have done that, you are
>>>using OE (MOE - Outhouse Distress) to read the group
>>>text messages. Now we can do some work to fix what
>>>you see in a post.
>>>However.. you need to get a newsreader first.
>>>There is one included in the tutorials posted.
>>>look for :
>>>Help files for newbies---- -
>>>Usenet[ABCP]ToolStash.rar (1/5)
>>>
>>>If you choose not to download programs from Usenet
>>>..?.. fine, you can get the correct executable straight
>>>off the EN site:
>>><agentenu200-652.exe>
>>>http://mirrors.easynews.com/agent/ftp.forteinc.com/pub/agent/english/
>>>
>>>Any difficulties with any of that , jes holler.
>>>
>>>cheers
>>
>You (fushtas) said;
>>In all fairness to me, giganews is where I got the instructions for
>>using OE.
>>
>I know.
>I said the server is "fine", as in "delivery".
>That is the extent of "fine".
>The rest.. well, different strokes for different folks.
>I do not and would not use Giganews.
>Stick around and you may discover why.
>
>>The first news server I used was xennews and that is how I started
>>using grabit.
>>
>If you are saying "X-News" , then.. yes, I know that
>tool. If you are talking about a server named
>"xennews"..?.. I have never heard of that one, sorry.
>
>>Now after installing Agent and comparing the 3 of them I really do
>>not see where I have missed out on "a lot" of anything.
>>
>[cough]
>... are you able to now read the headers for a post?
>
>
>> I would be very interested in you posting something that you are sure OE and
>>grabit do not post in their entirety and do a comparison of the 3
>>using just that post to see what I am gaining by using Agent.
>>
>A more fruitful path is to just sit down and use Agent.
>You will soon see yourself all of the advantages
>in being able to read a group... any group..
>
>Sorry I don't do others Usenet work for them.. IF you
>don't trust what I am saying..?.. then do nothing.
>I am simply letting you know.. what you do about it is
>entirely up to you.
>
>> I did get your design attempt of the CCOA and also Herbs. I
>>appreciate you and Herbs efforts greatly. I will have to play around
>>with both of them a bit, because I like your shield (minus the "Aussie
>>Made" emblem) and Herbs wreath.
>>
>It is my stance I am entitled to place "Aussie Made" on
>all my work (I do forget to, sometimes).. IF folks
>cannot figure out how to not sew that bit of the work
>then they aren't sewers.. IMVFHO... OMMV.
>
>>To answer a few of your Q's
>>
>>>Were you around for the Gymmy Bob/ JP Bengi years
>>>here in ABCP?
>>No I was not
>>
>Then you haven't seen a millisecond of what he creates
>as confusion. Expect more (confusion) unless you do
>something about it. He is using more than one name to
>post into ABCP with right now, and has for some time
>now.
>
>>>Were you here when IT was posting as "Taz is a TWAT"
>>>just a few months ago??
>>Um yes I was around but I am sure it didn't interest me to read it.
>>
>So now you find yourself where you are simply because
>you didnt pay attention to how the group is running..
>right?
>
>>>He (loose use) is laughing fit to bust--> at you<-- ..
>>* ?
>>
>He (loose use) "sucked you in". You used his post to
>reply to me yet you had no idea to whom you were
>actually addressing the post.. right?
>... ergo.. he confused you, sucked you into his stupid
>game.
>
>ummmm..
> /thinking
>Whatever you are reading this post with, try using this
>MiD to see what _I_ **did** post. That may help you
>understand.
> <gQqgo.97689$zE6.92437@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com>
>
>IT responded TWICE to that post.. see if you can find
>BOTH of those and quote the MiDs.
>There is some "home work" for you :->
>
>
>>>Just so you know I know he knows I know and told you I know.
>>OK so he knows that you know and I really don't know but don't tell
>>him that I don't know. Let him believe I do know that you know that
>>he knows that you know that you told me and then we all know. ;)
>>
>That would be fine only this is a public forum and it
>really should not be necessary for ME to SAY anything
>to YOU as I should *know* you know I know you know he
>knows I know you know ... and he knows this also.
>
>Some (most) folk spend their time learning the little
>tips and tricks of Usenet to either help themselves be
>more efficient or to help others.. some never bother
>learning more than how to post text so as to harass
>groups as a "fun thing" to do.
>The guy (loose use) may be psychotic, illiterate and
>dyslectic.. he isn't blind.. K?
>
>>
>>>The edjut is doing a "cut and paste" on my posts
>>>and then editing the words he (loose use) wants to
>>>change
>>>You understand that much?
>>Yes I think I understand. According to you, he (loose use) this
>>"fanboi" person is a wannabe hopper? Do I have that right?
>>
>Most definitely zealously jealous, yes.
>
>Why..?.. primarily because when IT started using Usenet
>someone somewhere gave him a spanking over his little
>stupidities which he refused to correct.
>MOE users are usually greeted in this manner.. standard
>Usenet introduction in many many groups.
>Generally they are that "thick" it takes a few lessons
>to get them to see MOE fails at reading NGs.
>
>btw... he is still doing some of it today.. just ask IT
>about "top posting"!!
>That will "set him off"... ranting <BFG>
>
>oH and never mention "sig dlmt".. that mystery fairly
>pops his cork..!!
>
>
>>* Why is wannabe hopper laughing at me?
>>
>You bite.. that simple.
>
>>FUshtas
>>
>Yeh I get the FU bit of it... the rest is waaay too
>cryptic for a cursory glance.
>heh.. good luck running that nym <BG>
>
>
>cheers
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