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| Pixie (Pixie@AnnWheatley.com.invalid) |
2010/06/03 22:20 |
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 12:36:26 +1000, hopper
>Pixie <Pixie@AnnWheatley.com.invalid>wrote:
>>On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 11:53:08 +1000, hopper
>>
>>>Herb@the.herb.gardenwrote:
>>>>TheadWidow wrote:
>>>>
>>>>That looks like a hooping and/or stabilizer problem.
>>>>Here's a close-up of the stitch design.
>>>>
>>>Excellent Herb... answers a huge question for me.
>>>
>>Mebbe you should ask that question... out loud like...
>>
>Ok.. I am game if you are.. heh heh.
>/ducks
>
I can leadeth you with type... I can't made you read it at any speed
that will help your cause.../grin
>That was a commercial design Herb posted, yeh?
>
As in logo? Yessums.
>So how is it these can be applied like a "generic"
>across all materials and weaves?
>Neither of those were/are my question.
>
Good digitising is good digitising. Period.
Rules apply in digitising. They have to be learnt.
You try to skip over them, thinking you can shortcut or you know
better?, there will be tears....
Logos, it can be "assumed" (I hate that word), will usually end up on
a stretch fabric of some description these days.
But that is neither here nor there, either.
Underlay, stitch direction and stitch density are prolly my big 3
requirements for a multi functional stitchout.
Underlay is not required so much for "feathered" stitching (feathering
is its own stabiliser) or when you are creating a shadowed look and
only want a hint of colour (stitch density is set for wide).
Stitch direction is critical in creating a false sense of "depth" in
the design. Like facets in a diamond. Straight up and straight across
stitching on cotton is not wise for any great area of stitching,
without good underlay. It can get "lost" in the natural weft of the
fabric.
Density... now there's a volume like War and Peace.
This is tricky. This is prolly where you, as an amateur digitiser need
to know what the fabric is most likely to be. It can be too dense,
causing the fabric to "curl". It can be too sparse and on stretchy
materials this will cause gaps.
I have a sewing friend, whose favourite saying is "a blind man on a
galloping horse would be happy to see it"...
It just makes me cringe when She holds up poorly stitched efforts and
thinks "rough enough is good enough".../grin
And then She SELLS it to equally blind people... /chortle...
Heh... guess what Her star sign is... rofl...
I do a lot of embroidery on quite stable cotton. I still prefer
designs that have quality underlay stitching, so I get a stable
stitchout that withstands endless summers of washing. Underlay can
also prevent warping.
Perpendicular and horizontal stitching for the whole design NEEDS
something under it to prevent the stitches pulling the natural weave
of the fabric as it stitches.
>My question was:
>How does a sewer _know_ what a design is suitable for?
>
/grin... practice??... A lifetime of seeing what doesn't work??
Yer a computer Exshpurt (/genuflect)...
How do you know how to build a computer that works??
... trial and error. You weren't born knowing how.... no, you weren't!
There are rules to follow in pooterin', the same as there are rules to
follow in embroidery.
A secret for ya??.... You CAN put ALMOST any bleeding design on
ANYTHING you want... if you are brave and know how to get it onto the
fabric in the first place.
IF, if... if it is a good design to start with.
Ultimately, it is the "look" you want to achieve that decides for you.
Stabiliser is your best friend and will allow you to do any design on
any surface, but ultimately, you have to know what you are doing in
the first place.
>Like, people _buy_ these things, and, from what TW
>posted, the buyer has no idea what they are buying
>in respect of where to put it or how..
>So _how_ does the sewer _know_ what to buy?
>
Short answer... they don't always. They buy what they like and hope it
works on the fabric they want it to go on... true!
Experience...
I guess it's like buying a 4x4 truck when you is young and in love
with gadgets. When you get stuck in the mud once too often and the
pretty toy you only thought was a 4x4 won't get you out...
Next time you buy a real one!... /chortle...
Experience v youthful enthusiasm.... hindsight is always a brutal
teacher!
EG... some small digitising companies should just give up now /laff
There is stuff that floats through abcp that I wouldn't sew in a
million years... it's awful. And yet, I hear it being oohed and ahhed
over... /shrug
I expect perfection from a design I paid top dollar for. Tis why I
stick with the companies that have stood the test of time.
I've been embroidering for decades. Hand and machine. You just get to
know your craft. It takes time, is all.
Like you know computers. Doan know shit about sewing, but you know
pooters!! I trust your pooter advice.
Buuuuuuuut... you want embroidery to behave like a computer and it
won't.
There is no free lunch in embroidery. No two people will ever stitch
your digitising the same.
You, as a digitiser, have to cover all bases BEFORE the embroiderer
stuffs it up with bad hooping!
YOU have to KNOW how it sews under ideal conditions. Then, and only
then, does the responsibility fall on the embroiderer in regards to
hooping etc.
>They edit what they buy... too?
>
You've gotta let this "edit" bug of yours go!!
Just because a design house puts up a set of designs for sale, doesn't
mean they are worth a chit!!
I have "edited" Sue Box (sorry Sue!). I love Sue Box, I think Her
stuff is top shelf. I even purchased this set, it was not from here.
The fairy's dress was pink and sewed the cheeks at the same time!
How rude! What if I wanted a blue dress fairy?? The cheeks would be
blue!! Or purple, or yellow... etc.
If putting in a colour stop after the dress, so I can choose my own
cheek colour, offends your sensibilities... ?? Too bad, so sad!
Sue should not have been so restrictive in not offering me choice in
the fairy's dress colour.../grin
>Lots of questions, eh<g>
>
I've got lots of answers... you may not like them though... /chortle
They all mean WORK, one way or the other...!!!
>cheers
Pixie :-))
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