Chad (NP-b24) wrote in news:9j3os4db93jhvcjfk39p0jcqbs0b7iatde@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:02:11 -0400, NP-f31 wrote:
>
>>Attention ALL and text posters:
>>
>>Let me preface this by saying NO ONE should take this post as a
>>personal attack. I am addressing the group and group behaviors.
>>
>>You may have noticed that there is a steadily decreasing amount of
>>content available in the groups. This is YOUR fault. The posters
>>are sick and tired of you endangering their security by making
>>comments about the nature of the content of posts. I don't blame
>>them. Why should they bother posting openly when someone (who
>>doesn't know better) posts passwords, group names, or content
>>descriptions for everyone to see? What happens then? The posters
>>get their posting privileges canceled or worse.
>>
>>The posters are fed up with your constant whining. 'I can't see
>>this post on my server!' Why are you posting with yEnc? My
>>newreader can't decode that!' 'Why doesn't anyone post more of THIS
>>or THAT?' 'What kind of program opens these files?'
>>
>>They are irritated with your laziness. Why would anyone ask for a
>>repost if the PAR files are right there? If you're not receiving
>>complete posts why don't you change news servers? Get the software,
>>Learn to use the software, and you will have no problems. The
>>posters KNOW when their posts don't go through properly. When that
>>happens they almost ALWAYS do a repost without anyone asking.
>>
>>And most of all they are sick of your demanding attitude. 'Post the
>>following titles for me:' 'I requested these last week, why didn't
>>you post them?' 'I didn't like that post, post more of this.' You
>>know all of this is true. You're either lazy, stupid or evil. Take
>>your pick.
>>
>>As of today, ALMOST ALL of the posters have left, they are
>>posting for themselves in secret groups and you find yourselves ASS
>>OUT.
>>
>>That's right, they are in secret groups, and not so secret groups,
>>posting for themselves only. They will not acknowledge you, they will
>>not respond to you. They disdain you. And YOU made all of this happen
>>either through inexperience, stupidity or selfishness.
>>
>>I tried to broker a deal with the posters on your behalf to allow me
>>to share passwords and the location of the secret groups so you will
>>have access to the content you seek. They would have none of it. I
>>guess I don't blame them. Don't ask me for the secret groups or the
>>passwords, I don't have the passwords and I won't give out the group
>>names, it doesn't matter anyway, you could never access the material.
>>
>>A buttload of people have asked for my list of groups. Almost all are
>>appreciative, if they acknowledge my e-mail at all, but then some
>>write back to complain that many groups are dead or there is not much
>>posting going on. This is typical of the behavior I'm talking about. I
>>give you a list of recently active groups and you complain to me that
>>it's not enough. Bloody hell.
>>
>>SO now we have hundreds of lurkers who are desperate for new material.
>>What are we going to do now?
>>
>>My primary concern is for the safety of boys in real life. As the
>>groups have begun to dry up, lurkers have been getting more and
>>more desperate. I believe that the content provided by the posters
>>keeps boys safe, bottom line. If they can wank their fantasies
>>away, then BLs are less likely to be aggressive toward a boy in
>>their life.
>>
>>My secondary concern is for the safety of newbie lurkers who out of
>>desperation and inexperience will make foolish mistakes that
>>compromise their security and bring them into conflict with
>>authorities. This is already happening.
>>
>>So what can YOU do?
>>
>>Well, if you have a boy in your life, leave him alone. Boys are the
>>treasures we live for. Taking advantage of a boy for your own selfish
>>gratification goes against what we're about. It will hurt the boy
>>emotionally, physically and psychologically, it will likely end you in
>>prison. Make your focus about the needs of the boy you love, NOT about
>>your desires.
>>
>>DO NOT expose yourself to websites or peer-to-peer networks without
>>the proper security measures. These two areas are where you are most
>>vulnerable. Desperate people do desperate things and you'd only be
>>making the job of LEA easier. Don't try to pick up a boy in a
>>chatroom. It ISN'T a boy. It's a cop. Consider the dangers and
>>consequences of your actions BEFORE you make a fatal mistake.
>>
>>As of this moment you have a tiny handful of posters willing to share
>>with you. Treasure these posters, do nothing to alienate them.
>>Appreciate them. When they go away you are completely fucked. If you
>>show that you can act properly as a group, it may entice some former
>>posters to return and give you a second chance. Pray for that to
>>happen.
>>
>>SOME ADVICE:
>>
>>If there are parts missing in a post, use the PARS. If a post is so
>>terribly corrupted that PARS can't fix it, then you need to get
>>another news service.
>>
>>Don't complain that you don't have these groups on your news
>>server. That's YOUR problem. Have your provider add the group or
>>change services. Even now there are text posters in another group
>>trying to hound one of the few remaining posters to switch to a
>>different group. Posters rule, adapt! At the very least compromise
>>delicately with the poster, DON'T be demanding.
>>
>>1) Do not not share the other group names openly.
>>2) Except to say thanks, do not discuss group content openly. Rather
>> make comments in a different group like this one.
>>3) Thank posters appropriately.
>>4) Do not post to ask questions in the content group. Use a separate
>> text group, like this one.
>>5) Do not post requests unless they are solicited by the posters.
>>6) Do not post to ask for reposts. Use the PARS or change servers.
>>7) Do not post to complain. Nobody cares what a whiner thinks and it
>> just pisses off posters.
>>
>>If it is clear that a post was incomplete on the server of origin,
>>discuss it in a separate text group. The poster may repost files if it
>>is clear the poster's service came through incomplete. The idea is to
>>keep the content of a group unknown to those who happen to be passing
>>through, like trolls, or zealots. Someone would have to go to a lot of
>>trouble to figure out what's going on in a group if we follow those
>>guidelines.
>>
>>Finally, don't flame me for pointing these things out. For once, just
>>consider how YOU might have been a part of the problem.
>>
>>STAY SAFE,
>>
>>Doc
>>NP-f31
>
>
> Very well said, Doc. And perhaps a bit overdue.
>
> I've actually gotten messages in my inbox, requesting that I try to
> convince a certain poster to post in a group that the sender gets.
>
> While I haven't made any major posts in years, I remember, with some
> pain, how much effort it is to set up the posting software, group the
> files together and what-not. I quit posting, partly due to a lack of
> original material, but more so because of a lack of appreciation for
> what was posted, not to mention being criticized for not posting more,
> or for not posting 'different' material. I simply gave up and went
> back to lurking.
>
> I too am guilty of not posting a simple word of "thanks!" more often
> and I shall try to do better. But I have never complained, never
> whined, never been demanding or pushy about anything or anyone. If a
> file type was posted that I wasn't familiar with, I searched the
> internet and found what software was required to utilize it. Yes,
> there were times when I got stumped and wasn't able to figure
> something out, but rather than whining or complaining, I simply gave
> up and moved on. When my newsreader no longer suited me, or didn't do
> what I needed / wanted it to do, I didn't bitch, I got myself a new
> newsreader. It's called "adapting" folks.
>
> Bottom line: DPOTP
>
> (Don't Piss Off The Posters)
>
> Chad (NP-b24)
>
So true, and also a tragedy. We're supposed to be helping each other,
supposed to be bonding together by a common thread. Since I arrived
at the groups, I've had a single policy. If I didn't like a post,
move on to the next, only d/l what I like. Posting is an expression
of speech, via the Constitution, all of us have freedom of speech.
We may not agree with the poster, but that doesn't say attack the
poster. I stopped a year ago for the reason of being questioned
and challenged over the name of the series I was posting. I hope
this situation will reverse itself in the future. Thanks to all who
do continue to post.
Rich
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