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From: Winston Smith <Winston.Smith@Victory.Mansions.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.utb.naughty-boy
Subject: Re: I Just Love Oliver Hll
Date: 27 Mar 2007 12:29:02 -0500
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Tedn'Alice@notellin.com wrote in news:00ei03ps2skg6la880tr0t6240toa67mkh@
4ax.com:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:47:46 -0500, Winston Smith
> <Winston.Smith@Victory.Mansions.com> wrote:
>
>>Tedn'Alice@notellin.com wrote in
news:6aa8031m3q2ni3sphdeanf4jlsrtm6ba90@
>>4ax.com:
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>>> I think it is our common misconception that the Victorian Age was
>>> defined by extreme sexual inhibition in an atmosphere of moral
>>> tryanny, for so many photographers at the turn of the 19th century
>>> regularly photographed nudes, both for science and art. Photography
>>> was still a new and exciting form of art, when the rendition of the
>>> human form was seen as a thing of beauty rather than an abomination.
>>> It was the period of Pluschow and Von Gloeden, Sutcliffe ... so many.
>>>
>>> World War I changed that idyllic time forever, at least in Western
>>> Europe and the United States. The airbrush replaced the Pope's
>>> figleaf and nudes were "sanitized" for popular consumption.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure why. Does anyone?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "That which is not just is not law"
>>>
>>
>>Except that Oliver Hill worked in the 30's
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> You are quite right! The styles should have tipped me off
> immediately. I stand corrected and thank you for this clarification.
> I believe my analysis yet has merit, however. I would be surprised to
> find Hill's work ever appeared in media meant for wide-spread
> distribution.
>
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>
> "That which is not just is not law"
>
Actually I know that because I'm a little bit of a Hill buff. He
actually made 3 books, all published by himself (or so I believe. Hardly
surprising when you consider the content :-)). The books are:
Garden of Adonis
Pan's Garden (At least I think it was Garden :-))
Jonquill
All pictures appeared with a short romantic verse written by a famous
poet (Shelley, Byron and the like). The Boyphoto magazine series was a
compliation of the photographs. However I've never seen the books for
sale recently. The only time I've seen them go on sale, the price was
However you'll be lucky to see these books anytime in the near future.
(Oliver Hill's wife or rather late wife since they are both dead by now)
tended to be very reluctant to talk about the photographs, fo obvious
reasons :-)
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