| Re: Do boylovers hurt boys? Yes, no, maybe ? |
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| the non (myaddress@server.co) |
2007/06/27 23:44 |
In article <2k1683pmt89asncgj10mgv3oefv08839ia@4ax.com>,
Dude With the Hair <DudeWiththe(REMOVE)Hair@hushmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 02:49:40 GMT, HMS Victor Victorian
> <VV@19thCent.net> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:33:59 GMT, Dude With the Hair
> ><DudeWiththe(REMOVE)Hair@hushmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 02:34:57 GMT, HMS Victor Victorian
> >><VV@19thCent.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>*Saving bandwidth*
> >>
> >>>>As for guidelines for intergenerational relationships, I can distill
> >>>>the right path down to one simple mantra:
> >>>>
> >>>>If we put our boys first in all things, then we will succeed in all of
> >>>>our goals for them.
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks again The Non, for the thoughtful informative post.
> >>>>
> >>>>Doc
> >>>>NP-f31
> >>>>
> >>>>Boys First, Last and Always
> >>>
> >>>Taking your mantra to a logical extension ...
> >>>
> >>>Given the nature of Western Judeo-Christian society, a boylover who
> >>>has a consensual intimate relations with a young friend, however that
> >>>might be expressed, harms the boy through his own irresponsibility,
> >>>knowing that if the relationship is exposed, the boy could be
> >>>stigmatized by the very society that claims to protect his interests.
> >>>
> >>>This, then, is 4s00th's position.
> >>>
> >>>Is it yours?
> >>>Is it The Non's?
> >>
> >>In my practice and world view that scenario will have been thoroughly
> >>disscussed, debated and decided upon by both parties before any
> >>consenual act ever takes place. Given your example, you can see why I
> >>believe intergenerational sexual relationships should only be acted
> >>upon after months of eduation, thought and heartfelt discussion
> >>between partners who condider each other equals.
> >>
> >>Doc
> >>NP-f31
> >>
> >>>Most respectfully,
> >>>VV
> >>>God Save Her Majesty the Queen.
> >>>God Preserve the Prince of Wales.
> >>>Rule Britannia!
> >
> >
> >Yet, you must concede, my dear friend, that although a man and a boy
> >may have serious discussions regarding intimacy, and that the boy may
> >eagerly desire such intimacy, there is a real danger that should the
> >relationship "come out" in public, the boy will be stigmatized,
> >perhaps feel humiliation and suffer degredation--in other words, be
> >harmed.
> >
> >Let me tell you a story. I know of a boy, who was "involved" with a
> >man much older than he. Once an investigation was completed, the
> >older man went to prison for twenty years. The boy at the time of the
> >man's arrest was twelve or thirteen years old. By the time the trial
> >ended and the whole scenario became public, he was just entering
> >secondary.
> >
> >One morning, a passerby found him in a deep ravine, upon the rocks
> >below a highway bridge, dead. He had thrown himself off in an
> >attempt, tragically successful, to commit suicide. It was explained
> >to me that he had been so unmercifully taunted and degraded by his
> >school mates for being "so-and-so's wife" etc. that he had been driven
> >to self destruction.
> >
> >Is this outcome substantially the fault, then, of the man who loved
> >the boy and got caught?
> >
> >Respectfully submitted.
>
> No, that outcome was the results of kids being tough on other kids.
> And the real blame lies on the media who would publish the name of a
> minor in such a case. That should never have happened.
>
> Doc
> NP-f31
Someone posted a .jpg of a Russian newspaper displaying the pictures of
most of the boys who were photographed by "Servus", thereby wrecking a
few dozen lives in the effort to identify the photographer. That's an
extreme example, but the same thing happens over and over as LEA does
great harm trying to catch someone who does no palpable harm to anyone.
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