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| HMS Victor Victorian (VictorVictorian@NBG.com) |
2008/05/22 19:44 |
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From: HMS Victor Victorian <VictorVictorian@NBG.com>
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Subject: Re: A Stunning Concession!
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On Thu, 22 May 2008 23:38:34 +0000 (UTC), Naughty Boy <naughtynaughty>
wrote:
>HMS Victor Victorian <VictorVictorian@NBG.com> wrote in
>news:v20c34hgugp2fmf0nninrd66athp0boq5q@4ax.com:
>
>> On Thu, 22 May 2008 23:17:29 +0000 (UTC), Naughty Boy <naughtynaughty>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>HMS Victor Victorian <VictorVictorian@NBG.com> wrote in
>>>news:ge8b34la5n9cqp8p3vrt8b49ckrl4grsgv@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> I am amazed that the most recently prolific antagonist has actually
>>>> made the following statement.
>>>>
>>>> [Begin direct quote]
>>>> "Yet your solution for the protection of children is to plaster their
>>>> nude
>>>> photos all over Usenet without their informed consent. You are not a
>>>> boylover
>>>> at all, are you." (note incorrect punctuation--ed)
>>>> [End direct quote]
>>>>
>>>> The conclusion is that, by heavens, children are capable of giving
>>>> "informed consent" or the statement would not have been couched in
>>>> such verbiage.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, the subsequent argument might revolve not around the term
>>>> "consent" but around the intent of term "informed." I have little
>>>> doubt as to how our dear protagonist will draw those parameters.
>>>>
>>>> Concurrently, given this statement, if posting pictures of nude
>>>> children without their "informed consent" is wrong ... indeed if not a
>>>> crime ... then such popular picture sites such as Webshots, Picasa,
>>>> Fotki, etc. are filled with perpetrators [the majority of them being
>>>> doting parents and relatives] guilty of the same ... literally
>>>> thousands of them.
>>>>
>>>> Where then should IWF begin? Quite a conundrum, to say the least.
>>>
>>>So you go to those websites to perv as well? Your infantile lust must
>>>have no limits.
>>
>> Dissimilation.
>> So typical.
>
>Pseudo-intelligence, so typical.
>
>"Dissimilation is a phenomenon whereby similar consonant sounds in a word
>become less similar. It has been claimed that dissimilation results in a
>form that is easier for the listener to perceive (whereas assimilation
>results in a form that is easier for the speaker to pronounce), with the
>implication that such results are in fact the cause of the change. These
>interpretations misunderstand the nature of the arguments and the
>reasoning behind them, however. While synchronic patterns of speech
>production may well be motivated by the need to produce speech with as
>little effort as possible whilst maximising the perceptual distinctiveness
>of the results (a goal-directed process), sound change operates blindly,
>like natural selection in evolution. The perceptal causes of dissimilation
>appear to centre around contexts in which a single acoustic effect derives
>from 2 or more sources, but listeners attribute the effect to only 1 of
>those sources, factoring the acoustic effect out from other contexts. This
>factoring out of coarticulatory effects has been experimentally replicated
>numerous times. For example, in a word like Greek *phakhu- "thick" > Greek
>pakhu- (pa??-), the aspiration in the original form from both the initial
>and medial consonants will pervade both syllables at the phonetic level in
>casual speech, making the vowels breathy. Listeners hear a single effect -
>breathy voicing on the vowels - and attribute it to only one of the stop
>consonants, assuming the breathiness on the other syllable to be a long-
>distance coarticulatory effect. The idea that dissimilation springs from
>articulatory awkwardness is easily discounted as repetitions of features
>across word boundaries do not tend to dissimilate, as they might be
>expected to do if the problem was simply a motor one of multiple
>articulations of the same or similar segments. Dissimilation strikes
>within words because for listeners to replicate the words in their own
>speech, the words must be resolved to a single series of time-aligned
>motor commands, and in parsing the acoustic signal in this way,
>coarticulatory effects are undone."
Ah, the budding phonologist. Noam Chomsky beware!
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