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From: HMS Victor Victorian <VictorVictorianREMOVE@hushmail.com>
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Subject: Re: discussion about Oliver/Julian
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Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:00:35 GMT
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:35:46 GMT, the non <myaddress@server.co> wrote:
>Having been invited I'll 'spend a penny', too. I have no authoritative
>comments, but my gut feeling about this lad has been 'Portuguese'. The
>idea that someone has changed his eye color is hard to swallow, since in
>all the pictures I can remember, they are blue. One sees pale blue eyes
>with dark hair all over the Mediterranean, which probably says more
>about the history of invaders than anything else. His hair seems to be
>quite coarse and heavy, and that suggests Portugal to me. I have
>traveled through most of the regions mentioned (except Corsica) and
>strange as it may seem, have noticed the characteristics of boys from
>place to place. Many, possible most, French boys have dark hair and
>blue eyes, but there are subtle differences. The backgrounds have not
>been helpful, and I haven't seen a video with a sound track yet. Of
>Portuguese boys I have known (not many, admittedly), most spoke French,
>too. My opinion is just that, an opinion.
>
>As for JEN, I remember the first issue I found at a news dealer at
>hidden inside another, devouring the images. At that time pictures of
>naked boys were pretty rare. The magazine 'Jeunes et Naturales' was
>also published in England as 'Young & Natural' and in German as 'Frei
>There was also a Canadian edition published in Quebec. As far as I now
>remember, they were of identical content. In the late 90s, scans of
>complete issues of JeN, as well as the others, were commonly posted. I
>may still have a set on old ZIP disks.
>
>The dating suggested for the Oliver/Julian photos may off quite a bit,
>because photos published in the 1990s may have been taken 10 years or
>more before. Very little material of that kind is published in 'real
>time'.
>
>The work of Pojkart, van Houten and Gerd Berendt seems to have been
>acquired by Azov Films (whether Azov is paying royalties is another
>question), which suggests the original makers are no longer in business.
>I walked out to the address he used, found a nice looking house, and no
>one home (possibly no one answering). Even then I had the idea that the
>films had been made several years before, based mostly upon the media
>had seen at that time, and converted to video at a time when
>contemporary videos were shot directly to VHS. So trying to guess
>Oliver/Julian's age is speculative at best. The discussion reminds me
>the real guys step up and convincingly identify themselves.
Thank you, the non. Resolution? The fun is in the chase, don't you
think? In a sense, it allows us to relive our lives with Oliver, and
to endulge in our own sentimental wishes and longings. What I would
not have given to have been as a boy Oliver's friend!
Not only do you continue to be a good friend, but an informative one.
Regarding Julien aka Oliver, I have noticed that in the pictures from
JeN, he is affiliated with one particular set of children throughout
... and in the series from the petting zoo, there is a woman with
them. In my estimation, they appear very much as a family.
I shall take a closer look at the eye colour, lest I am mistaken.
I believe Azov films has been a boon to the genre, for their materials
seems quite high quality. I cannot imagine they would market these
materials while risking charges of infringement. The fact certain
busy-body-do-gooder-moralist have been railing about the subject as
being porn speaks volumes. I therefore applaud Azov.
Along those lines, there are Euro-nudist videos heretofore unposted
that also feature Oliver. I haven't seen them, but I have seen a few
of the stills, which occassionally fly past in the nudist groups. I
wonder if anyone could share them?
Regarding the age of the pictures and videos--if you can acertain a
time in either medium, then clearly it would apply for both since
Oliver is, give or take two or three years, the same age. For our
budding sleuths [strueth!] I would suggest studying the style of the
toys, electronics, cars or car plates, for a clue. Perhaps our dear
French correspondents would be most knowledgeable regarding that.
Certainly, analysing the style of CLOTHING, given the subject, would
be "unrevealing".
I am always glad to hear from you.
Victor.
God Save Her Majesty the Queen.
God Preserve the Prince of Wales.
Rule Britannia!
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