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Subject: Re: I am being viciously FLAMED in a Scurrilous attack by Y-NOT.
Date: 6 Sep 2006 06:04:03 -0500
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In article <k7gqf2p41l4vm5qoq2v1nd39as2fibslnm@4ax.com>, Mephistopheles
<no-fixed@address.net> wrote:
Here is what I have written to another, some hours ago:
Oh I DO plan to reply to his post. Again, not to attack, but to show
him how really funny he is.
I saw his post many hours ago, but I wanted to stop laughing before I
typed the reply.
"Methinks he doth protest too much", and without substance. :-)
People can SEE what he does. No amount of fancy overloaded words will
distract from that, no matter how much he strains himself in trying.
> To Y-Not:-
>
> For several months now, this group which had lain dormant, has seen a
> wonderful coming together of various posters. Every exchange in this
> group has been of the friendliest, both in giving & receiving. This
> was an outstandingly happy, harmonious group. Until you came trampling
> in to launch yet another poisonous but quite laughable assault on me.
Actually, no, you are wrong. It was Romeo who broke the peace here. I
even agreed with you about that in my post you label with such harsh
words.
Here you go again accusing him of being me. When you will ever stop
that?
I didn't attack you. But if that's what you want?
Well, since you say I did, then I couldn't do any worse by actually
doing it for real, right? If you think my nice words to you were an
attack, how could your sensibilities survive a REAL attack? You aint
seen nuttin yet! :-)
Do you remember what I did to my attackers after Homeanon was finally
arrested, when I was free at last to let loose? I wasn't hardly trying
my best then. ;-)
But alas, not this time. Romeo asked me not to, so it is to HIM you owe
thanks for my gracious forbearance.
> In my comments in the "Back to Basics" thread above, I had shared your
> disappointment & had not uttered a single unfavorable word against
> you.........Yet you fell on me with your customary ill-tempered fury.
> What is it, that is festering away so insidiously inside you? Why does
> my nic so turn your head?
Because I have a neck? :-)
You are speaking apples and oranges. Your original post didn't mention
the activities of Romeo, that you helped to motivate, which I then
addressed in my reply to you.
Whenever you attempt to describe my negative feelings and motivations,
that I don't have, you are actually, and quite accurately, describing
your own. I don't have them, but you sure do, and it's awfully amusing
to see you do this, and my other attackers as well, and none of you
ever realize you are doing it.
You people always seem to forget this is a job for me. I take nothing
personally here. Those who post at the prompting of their egos, such as
all of you do with most of your posts, and yourself especially, do take
most everything personally, even what isn't.
That you choose to project your childish feelings onto ME, of all
people, is quite silly, actually. I'm a shrink, remember?
So ah, stop that. :-)
> To the general reader
>
> I shall not lower myself to reprint YN's incredible assault on me,
> which includes some 15 unsubstantiated Slanders, not one of which
> would stand up in an English Court!
Actually, you lower yourself by not quoting my post, because all can
see that it is a transparent attempt to avoid trying to refute what you
cannot.
I didn't assault anyone, accept maybe Romeo, a little. I but told you
the truth you dislike. If that is an assault to you, then rail at
reality.
You need to view anything you dislike that is communicated to you, as
an attack, when it is not. I have told you before why your perceptions
are warped that way. Do you need me to tell you again? Do you need to
be my patient again? And in public? Or will you stop this?
> My alleged treatment of Romeo seems to be what sticks in his craw the
> most.. And he builds on that lie to diss everything I stand for in
> every single group, & all the people "who have left", he lays not at
> his door, but at mine!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, it's not a lie, as anyone who can read the posts will see.
> So, as my latest crime seems to be involved with Romeo, let's look at
> "The Romeo lie".
>
> Some weeks ago in Chris I noticed several posters making reference to
> a certain Romeo, but no Romeo post appeared anywhere on my screen.
> So I started a thread asking:- "Is Easynews being Picky again?"
>
> ****** 1.- Here is that post :-
>
> " I see, from the 15 plus JAMMer thread, references made to TWO posts
> by some wannabee "Romeo".........?
>
> "There is no record of any post by Romeo on my server."
>
> ****** 2.-
>
> 17 minutes later, before any replies came through, I wrote:-
>
> "Well, bugger me. The plot thickens.
> "The missing posts downloaded using Outlook Express.
>
> "So it ain't EN, but something Agent doesn't like about Shakespeare
> characters.
>
> "Any ideas, Q?"
>
> *****All pretty innocuous stuff, so far. After all, I HAD NOT seen a
> single Romeo post, & he could turn out to be my best buddie.
>
> ***** 3,- Then, out of the blue, this from Romeo:-
>
> >So you are some illustrious person, are you Mephistopheles?.
> >Then i'll get a lot of enemies if i say fuck you!, or better fuck you
> >bastard!"
>
> ***** 4.- So I, for the FIRST & ONLY exchange I had with him, on
> being called "a fucking bastard", simply toyed whimsically with his
> OWN addy, giving its dictionary definition, as follows:-
>
> "cenobite", vid. "coenobite"
>
> "From "coenobium":- a colony of unicellular organisms".
> "I didn't know which bit to laugh at most; "colony" or "unicellular"
>
> "It would appear then that the question of your identity has
> satisfactorily resolved itself, without any speculation on my part.
> After all, I am not given to that sort of thing. LOL."
>
> END OF ALL CORRESPONDENCE with Romeo. Yep, folks, that was it. No foul
> language in my reply.
>
> After that, the incident dismissed from my mind, I posted some music
> for gollum
I doubt the dismissal part.
All our readers know you do this edited quoting, just to try to
convince readers to not believe what they can see for themselves in the
original posts. You count on their laziness to help you deceive them.
I don't do this. It is deceitful manipulation. It is not honorable. I
don't tell people what to think, like you do. I want them to see and
think for themselves. Unlike you, I think they are quite able to see
the truth on their own, and don't need any help for that, beyond
advising them where to look.
Could it be that you don't want them to see the truth, but only your
inaccurate personal interpretations?
Well, why else would you do this?
> Then, a note to Ghost on his Glo?be piccy
>
> And finally, to round off my brief visit to Chris, a merry little poem
> "Who killed cock robin?"
>
> I never instigated any exchanges with Romeo, He did that himsel, & I
> gave him but one reply, as above..
The why of that is obvious. You failed to mention the comments you made
about him, outright, and with attempts at subtlety, to other posters,
specifically to goad him to try to prove he isn't me. That is a
security violation. You directly supported and agreed with the other
people who attacked Romeo.
This can be easily seen by our readers, in my discussion group, which
you despoiled with your divisive and inciting actions.
> My interest in his direction currently is NIL.
Good, if it can be believed. I hope the reverse is also true.
>
> NOW BACK TO Y-NOT
>
> So, isn't it about time you started making apologies for a change, for
> this bloated screed of invective against me?
>
> Again, I am only confronting you with plain facts, not abusing your
> person.
Lies and attempted manipulative deception, are not abuse? Then don't.
> This will be my only post to you on this matter in Smeagol. For this
> is not the place for rubbishing people. Stick to Chris for all such
> vituperative attacks on all & sundry.....not that you'll find me there
> all that often.
There is NO "place for rubbishing people"! I don't, but you do, and you
help others to do it. When you stop, that won't happen.
If you can't behave yourself, and stop personally attacking people, and
supporting those who do, with your snide dirty comments and innuendoes,
then don't post in MY group at all. I left this group alone for months,
but you obviously haven't cared to return the favor. I don't cause
disruptions, but YOU sure do, and then you claim false innocence when
you have to suffer the results!
Actually, I hardly ever post where there are no disruptions, which is
why I didn't post here until there was one, to correct it. Which I
have, successfully.
I will continue to try to help you see the damage you do, when you do
it (even to your friends), in the hope that you will become a more
responsible member of this society. So if you don't want that from me,
DON'T do destructive things.
> Mephi
>
It is inadvisable to accuse someone of lying, with lies of your own,
especially when people can see the reality of things, in posts that are
still on most servers. I advise you not to do that, especially to
someone, such as myself, who, unlike yourself, is known to be fair and
truthful, which you have actually counted on from me when you thought
it was to your advantage.
There is another thing. Instead if replying directly to me, or taking
it to my discussion group (which Romeo nicely did for you), you posted
a highly emotional title to the group here, in what amounts to an
intentionally divisive rabble rousing attempt to acquire the support of
your gang, to wage your war on me for you, just as you tried to do with
your support for Morpheus' denial of identity attacks on Romeo. Do you
think your manipulative tactics don't go unrecognized?
A sort of a warning, here. When you engage in rabble-rousing, whose who
flock to your banner, will be rabble, and by this they will be known.
Why would you do such a thing to your friends? Please don't do that
again.
I hold you to a higher standard than I do the others who oppose me,
because you are more intelligent and have a better real education they
they do. It's a shame that you choose to use all that for willful
negativity. Please try to do better. Please don't attack people, or
support others in doing it, and please try to hold your poison pen in
check. PLEASE treat ALL others as you would have them treat you. When
you do, there will be the utmost peace between us.
Take care,
Y Not
"Cogito ergo sumthing to think about being."
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