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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:51:13 GMT
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>On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 06:55:00 GMT, TheGratefulDead
><thegratefuldead@your.house> wrote:
>
>>
>>>On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 05:41:24 GMT, TheGratefulDead
>>><thegratefuldead@your.house> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 03:28:27 GMT, TheGratefulDead
>>>>><thegratefuldead@your.house> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 02:01:32 GMT, TheGratefulDead
>>>>>>><thegratefuldead@your.house> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 03:39:59 GMT, TheGratefulDead
>>>>>>>>><thegratefuldead@your.house> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <Big Sniperoo>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Well, Tat was/is fighting lung cancer, you know.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I know, I know, but I hated to discover that I gave money away under
>>>>>>>>>"those" circumstances. I felt tricked and hoaxed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You were indeed, however, I had no control over the situation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>No big deal but FWIW, I still feel that a full disclosure should be
>>>>>>>>>made so that people are aware of the shameless trickery.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you want to make full disclosure, then make it. Like I said, I had
>>>>>>>>no control of the situation, and besides that, I have lost my Usenet
>>>>>>>>identity that I had for years. We all have suffered a loss in some way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I never said you were involved in the hoax, didn't even mean to imply
>>>>>>>that. I have a pretty good idea of what happened, and why, but why
>>>>>>>that means that you need to lose your nic is beyond me. Then again, I
>>>>>>>have never been very bright.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Because noone would believe it's me. Then when I would say yes, it is me,
>>>>>>then I would be asked to explain myself. Then I would tell them to get fucked.
>>>>>>My real life personal problems is none of their business. So, it's best to
>>>>>>leave it the way it is.
>>>>>
>>>>>I understand.
>>>>
>>>>Kewl
>>>>
>>>>>>>FTR, I have tried to alert a couple of people, in a very roundabout
>>>>>>>fashion, that all my not be as it seems, but it's hard to do without
>>>>>>>coming right out and saying it, but now that you have given me
>>>>>>>permission to do so, I will, at the proper time and place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's fine with me, however, i'm not going to explain myself to anyone.
>>>>>>In another group, Arch Stanton wanted me to explain myself and I more
>>>>>>or less told him, if he didn't like it, he could lump it. I guess he didn't
>>>>>>like it because I haven't heard from him since. That's all well and good.
>>>>>>All he is is a screen name anyway, so fuck him.
>>>>>
>>>>>Again, I understand. (That's a record, BTW), and that's why I am only
>>>>
>>>>Double kewl. <s>
>>>>
>>>>>going to alert a couple of people.
>>>>>I have pieced together that many of the camille ilk already know, and
>>>>>that's no big deal to me.
>>>>>Like you say, we are all just screen names, mostly.<s>
>>>>
>>>>No, I don't think that most of them know, unless Woodstock told them, and
>>>>noone has challenged my negative posts in camille about spidey collecting
>>>>PGP keys.
>>>
>>>Way I see it, WS told Count Draculol, and the game was afoot.
>>
>>Ummmm, you have lost me with this one. "game was afoot"??
>>Are you saying they all were running from me?
>
>No. If, as I know for a fact, a certain Wild bird told WS that what
>was dead, wasn't, then if only stands to reason that WS told Drac, and
>then Drac alerted other's.
>It's hard to prove because they all are pretty big on PGP'ing stuff.
Oh well, who gives a shit anyway.
>>>>>>>Let me know if and when you want the MP3's, and should you get the
>>>>>>>chance, I wouldn't mind having that *Surrealistic Pillow.*
>>>>>>>TIA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>It seems that "surrealistic Pillow" was a casualty. I can't even find
>>>>>>my vinyl record of it. Sorry!
>>>>>
>>>>>Fucking story of my life.<s>
>>>>>In any event, as this wasn't a "I'll trade you... for a copy of..."
>>>>>type deal, whatever CD's I have are yours.
>>>>
>>>>I'll let ya noe when i'm ready. I'm still working in the 50s and 60s groups.
>>>>I appreciate the offer.
>>>>
>>>>>BTW, the wayward veggie, Aub, has just turned me onto a thing called
>>>>>the .ogg format for music files.
>>>>>You familiar with that?
>>>>>Only works on .wav files, or something like them, and reduces the file
>>>>>size by 1/3, without loss of quality.
>>>>>Very Interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>Yeah, that's Ogg Vorbis format. I don't know much about it, but I
>>>>read that it's pretty good. You need a special player for those
>>>>files, if i'm not mistaken. I need to do some more research on it.
>>>>I think that the .ogg format will be the yEnc of music files. I can
>>>>see the bitching in the groups now. <G>
>>>
>>>Here's what I have found out in the last day since Aub upped it for
>>>me:
>>>The program, which I am posting for you, works by right clicking on
>>>the fish box, and from there you can set it up how you want it.
>>>It won't work if you rip an MP3 file, but, if you rip in .wav format,
>>>and then drag and drop that file into the fish box, it automatically
>>>converts the .wav file into an .ogg file.
>>>Now, the oggs are supposedly readily played with Winamp, but so far, I
>>>have had to take the posted .ogg files, and "drop" them into the fish
>>>box, and then, when the program converts it into a sound file, I can
>>>launch it with my stand alone MP3 player, Music Match JukeBox.
>>>My tests show that the same file, MP3 versus .ogg. is about 1/3 the
>>>size.
>>>That's a helluva savings, and the quality is supposedly better with
>>>.ogg.
>>>
>>>Lemme know what you think, OK?
>>>
>>So, your saying that I rip to .wav with Audiograbber, then drop a
>>.wav file into this proggie? Interesting, I'll give it a try. Thanks.
>
>Yes, that is exactly what I figured out.
>I ripped an MP3 but the fish said, "unsupported file type," and then I
>ripped a file into a .wav file, and the fish ate it up very nicely,
>and burped out an .ogg file.
>The difference in size, with no loss of quality was amazing.
>The .ogg was tiny in comparison to the MP3, and equally slim when
>stacked up against the .wav file.
>Then I upped all three of them to Aub's binary group,
>*alt.binaries.aubergine*, and as you might expect the upping times
>were indicative of the file size differences.
>The MP3 took 18 minutes, the .wav a tad longer, whereas the .ogg took
>2 minutes!
>
>I then DL'd all 3 files, again with significant time differences, and
>while I had to "drop" the .ogg file into the fish so that a useable
>file could be produced, it didn't take an appreciable amount of time.
>The quality was, to my untrained ear, the same for all 3.
>Now, supposedly, if I were using Winamp, as opposed to Music Match
>Jukebox, I wouldn't have needed to convert the .ogg file because
>Winamp plays them just fine.
>
Hell, I ripped one song from a CD with Audiograbber. It will rip to
the .ogg format. I got a free player here http://snackamp.sourceforge.net/
I didn't see that much of size difference between .ogg and .mp3. The
.mp3 is 2.60meg and the .ogg is 2.20meg. The quality is good.
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