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From: Hal <janhaltn@newsguy.com>
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.new-age
Subject: Re: HOS Project / email to & from Stephen Hill
Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 17:45:55 -0500
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Thanks for all of the information. I'm sorry to say that some of my
memory has also faded with the sands of time. Hal
On Wed, 21 May 2014 07:56:16 -0500, Griffin <hosgriffin@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On Tue, 20 May 2014 16:22:53 -0700, Katie <me@my-email.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 18 May 2014 19:32:19 -0500, Griffin <hosgriffin@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 26 Apr 2014 17:26:04 -0500, Griffin <hosgriffin@gmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>I want to create an Excel spreadsheet that has a list of all of the
>>>>Hearts of Space programs. Some of the columns could be:
>>>>Program Name, Program Number, Artist, Album, Track Title, etc...
>>>>(the details can be discussed here before starting)
>>>>
>>>>Obviously this would take one person a very long time. So I am asking
>>>>for volunteers. The more people working on this, the sooner it will be
>>>>done ;^)
>>>>
>>>>If you want to help with this, please send me an email at
>>>>hosgriffin at gmail dot com
>>>>
>>>>I will coordinate the effort, and post an updated spreadsheet weekly.
>>>>I will also send the completed list to Stephen Hill.
>>>>
>>>>If ten people add ten programs to the spreadsheet every week, then it
>>>>will be done in less than three months.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Recently I sent the following email to Stephen Hill:
>>>>Hello,
>>>> I have a recording of program 136 from many years ago, and during
>>>>the program you say that the title is "Floating." But on your website,
>>>>the title of program 136 is "Floating Whispers." Which one is correct?
>>>>I also have another recording of program 325, and during the program
>>>>you say that the title is "Floating Whispers", but on your website the
>>>>title of program 325 is "Floating Whispers 2."
>>>>
>>>>I've also noticed several other anomalies on your website. For
>>>>instance, the program details of number 2 - "Starmusic", which was
>>>>first broadcast on 5 Jan. 1983 lists the release year of some of the
>>>>albums used as being after 1983 - (1988, 1997, 1991.)
>>>>
>>>>Sorry to point these things out Stephen, because you really do amazing
>>>>work.
>>>>
>>>>Have you ever considered hiring someone to go thru your website and
>>>>fact check everything?
>>>>
>>>>Sincerely, (a HOS fan since 1987)
>>>>
>>>>Here is Stephen's reply:
>>>>Thanks for casting a precision eye on our program listings. You are
>>>>one of a small but appreciated group who've contacted us about details
>>>>like these. Since we aim to get things right 100%, we always respond
>>>>and fix any errors that are pointed out to us.
>>>>
>>>>I've passed your email on to Steve Davis, who is the keeper of our
>>>>Programs database. He will respond to you if he needs more
>>>>information; otherwise he'll fix whatever he can immediately.
>>>>
>>>>Please understand that we seldom update titles of shows when they are
>>>>rerun, but there have been a few cases where it's happened in 30 years
>>>>of broadcasting.
>>>>
>>>>On playlists, there's no point in listing out-of-print versions of an
>>>>album if there is a currently released version, so in these cases we
>>>>sometimes update the listings, which explains the later pub dates..
>>>>The goal is to give the listener current access information - we are
>>>>not a historical archive like Discogs.com that can list every
>>>>publication of a given album.
>>>>
>>>>Re your offer: we have a short list of People Who Care about these
>>>>things, and are always happy to have help in finding and fixing
>>>>errors. When we have an actual project, we'll contact you. There's one
>>>>coming up to verify the timing information (track start and end times)
>>>>prior to breaking the programs into their component tracks.
>>>>
>>>>Stay Tuned. Safe journey :: SH
>>>
>>>Here is a follow up email sent by Steve Davis:
>>>Thanks for your diligence with regard to details of the early shows.
>>>Now, as for the titles of early programs, remember that HOS grew out
>>>of a live 3-hour weekly broadcast, where there really wasn't a
>>>specific show title (just a general description handwritten on the box
>>>of a reel tape!). In the early days of syndication, NPR needed a
>>>unique identifier for each episode...and for that purpose, the program
>>>*number* is clearly more efficient and less ambiguous. I'm not
>>>implying that the title of the program is not important, but I think
>>>the titles of some of those early shows were a bit more "fluid," if
>>>you will.
>>>
>>>I went back to the original typewritten documents of that show from
>>>1987 and here's what I found: the official playlist & timings sheet
>>>given to NPR for that broadcast (i.e. the same data used for creating
>>>our website playlist) is titled "Floating Whispers." The voiceover
>>>script for the show has a heading of "FLOATING" but the text of the
>>>intro copy says "music for floating" (not in caps, more like a
>>>description than a title). I have a hunch that the title was settled
>>>on after the voiceovers were recorded and just before readying the
>>>and Michael Stearns' "Floating Whispers" fit the bill perfectly. Since
>>>the official playlist for NPR has that title, I'm inclined to leave
>>>things the way they are. If we change the title for "Floating
>>>Whispers," then we would also have to alter the title for "Floating
>>>Whispers 2," if only slightly. It gets rather complicated.
>>>
>>>Steve Davis
>>>Associate Producer
>>>HEARTS OF SPACE Radio Pgm.
>>
>>Really fascinating. Thanks for sharing. ;)
>>
>>Katie
>
>You're welcome Katie.
>
>The first time that I sent an email to hos.com was about fifteen years
>ago, and it was because I had heard Stephen Hill say that the name of
>program 91 was "Anna Turner Tribute." Of course I, and everyone else,
>had known for more than a decade that the name of program 91 was
>"Winter Light." So I sent off an email that said that they had gotten
>the name wrong. A woman responded (Mrs. Hill?), and she said that I
>was mistaken. So I replied back and said that she was mistaken, and
>even the Hearts of Space website agreed with me. Stephen replied a few
>days later, and he said that he had dug up the old tapes, and indeed
>the name of program 91 on the tape was "Winter Light." But he had
>decided to change the name in memory of Anna. He also said that the
>website that still had the original name was no longer being used, and
>would be taken down. Fast forward to 2014, and the site is still there
>https://www.hos.com/playlists/all.html
>
>Unfortunately that email thread has been lost to the sands of time.
>
>NOTE: Anna mistakenly calls program 91 "Crystal Light", which is why I
>think that this name has never been used for another program.
>
>
>If anyone else has a unique and interesting fact or story about Hearts
>of Space, I would love to hear it.
>
>Griffin
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