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On 27 Jan 2018 06:51:29 -0800, Miloch <Miloch_member@newsguy.com>
wrote:

>In article <ja3p6ddehb59fltde5ha3lvteifjlq3hfe@4ax.com>, Stormin' Norman says...
>>
>>On 16 Jan 2018 20:25:14 -0800, Miloch <Miloch_member@newsguy.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>https://jalopnik.com/the-worlds-biggest-passenger-airplane-might-soon-be-dea-1822098940
>>>
>>>The Airbus A380 weighs over 300 tons empty and, as of the year of our Lord 2018,

>>>must die and, as The New York Times reports, the A380, too, might soon die.
>>>
>>
>>I meant to comment on this a couple of days ago.  Reportedly Airbus
>>invested $20 - $25 billion developing the A380.
>>
>>They have built approximately 222 of the aircraft which reportedly
>>sell for $445 million each.
>>
>>Basic math aside, I wonder if they broke even on this plane?  I have
>>no idea what kind of margin exists on aircraft such as these.
>>
>>According to this page:
>>
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Airbus_A380_orders_and_deliveries
>>
>>There are 117 aircraft on order, yet to be built.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Don't think Airbus has ever made a real profit!  Looks like it's only survived
>thru government subsidies.
>
>http://www.boeing.com/company/key-orgs/government-operations/wto.page
>
>"For the last decade, the U.S. has pursued a case before the World Trade
>Organization (WTO) against illegal subsidies provided to Airbus by four European
>governments, which have given the European plane maker an unfair advantage in
>the global market. With government help, Airbus has captured 50% of the global
>commercial airplane market .
>
>"The European Union has used delay and stall tactics to continue evading global
>trade rules by filing their own cases against the United States and ignoring WTO


>subsidies the WTO ruled against them and meet their global trade obligations.
>
>


Interesting video from Boeing.  I was curious about the story from the
other side and found this:

http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-releases/en/2017/06/wto-condemns-boeings-non-compliance-and-new-subsidies.html

I would have to read transcripts from all the WTO hearing before I
could hope to wade through the propaganda from both sides.


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