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On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 00:16:02 +0000, Kie <kie@home.now> in
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<k69hebl3tkeed5vu0tqi85rbs5qpekih12@4ax.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 23:55:04 -0500, Hawkeye <Hawkeye@MASH.com> wrote:
>
>Snip
>>>
>>>I'm surprised people don't want the series titles and numbers displayed in the
>>>library pages of their eReaders. How do you find the next book in the series?
>>
>>That's an easy one. I use Calibre, but I also use my PC as my primary
>>repository of books. I have a separate Caliber library for the books
>>I have loaded to my Kindle, which are duplicate copies of my primary
>>library on my PC. I also copy the booklist from Fantastic Fiction
>>into a text file and load it under Author Name-Book List if I am
>>interested in a particular order.
>>
>>This gives me a list on my reader I can easily access if I am reading
>>a series. I keep a small group of books to be read on my reader and a
>>group of "favorites" that I enjoy re-reading from time to time.
>>
>>If I have a book in a library I wish to read I can add a -number after
>>the title to show the series position and then load a copy to my
>>reader, retaining the original. I copy the file to my Loaded library.
>>When I have read a book I mark it as being read, copy it back to my
>>PC, and replace the copy in my library. I remove the copy in my
>>Loaded library, of course.
>>
>>I do code my books as to tentative quality for those I have not read
>>by adding ~Bx or ~Cx after the title, with x being a number to show
>>relative readability. A ~B1 looks OK, while a ~C2 is unreadable. I
>>use ~A1 for read and OK or ~A2 for read but could stand replacing. In
>>this way all of my books reside on my PC and are regularly backed up
>>along with my other files. I can tell at a glance if I have read the
>>book, if my copy is OK, and if I have what appears to be an acceptable
>>copy I can now read if I so desire. I update the Metadata file at
>>this point insuring the series data and any necessary tags are in
>>place before adding the Book Read flag to the name and filing it away
>>permanently.
>>
>>For example:
>>
>>These are most useful in my PC database:
>>
>>A Mighty Fortress~A1 - David Weber.mobi Read and OK
>>A Mighty Fortress~A2 - David Weber.mobi Read and needs replacing
>>A Mighty Fortress~B1 - David Weber.mobi Not read appears OK
>>A Mighty Fortress~C2 - David Weber.mobi Not read appears unreadable
>>
>>Most useful in my reader:
>>
>>A Mighty Fortress-4 - David Weber.mobi Not read, number 4 in series
>>
>>My reader contains my 'books in process' more or less, and having had
>>three readers crap out on me without losing anything but my place in
>>whatever I was reading at the time I am well satisfied.
>>
>>I can easily replace or update any book list at any time, the files
>>are small, and don't clutter my reader (especially if I set up
>>separate groups by author) and I have found this to work quite well
>>for an absolutely insane number of books.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>I only posted two versions of the books, version 1 with corrected full metadata
>>>and version 2 was with the titles changed to include series & number and
>>>metadata stripped.
>>>
>>>There is a version 1.5 of the books I could post, full metadata with the titles
>>>changed to include the series. It would mean another save during the process
>>>but I have plenty of hard disk space. (Or this could be version 2?)
>>>
>>>I could then remove the metadata for people I normally supply books to and not
>>>bother posting this version?
>>>
>>>I'm editing the books anyway, for me and a few relatives. I just thought I
>>>might as well share the work I've put in with the people on usenet since this is
>>>where the books are from originally.
>
>
>Sorry about the delay, life gets in the way. I've just re-read this
>and I've rambled a bit, ignore if you wish, it's only the last
>paragraph that has the important bit about posting.
>
>Almost everyone I know, that has an eReader complains about the
>problems of finding the book they want to read, particularly if they
>want to read books in series order. It doesn't help that when they
>buy eBooks, the publshers can't even get basic information like author
>sort correct and sometimes switch author and title. Sometimes
>publishers add "A Series Name mystery" to the title but don't bother
>putting the series number. The kindle not having a sort by filename
>or the fact that author sort uses the publication date as the
>secondary sort doesn't help either.
>
>But despite the problem of not finding books, no one is interested in
>using calibre, particularly if it means removing DRM. Everyone loves
>the books I provide though, not just because they're free, but the
>series names in the library view and books in the right order make the
>kindle easy to use. I assumed that the people who used the newsgroups
>would want the same "pre-done" books ready to load onto eReaders, I
>was wrong.
>
>The comments by people on here have been interesting and I've realised
>that I've not been using calibre to its full potential. I've been
>doing a bit of googling and reading the mobileread forum for the first
>time and after learning more about what the current version of calibre
>can do, I understand why cut down versions aren't what subscribers to
>these newsgroup want.
>
>We're all grateful for the posts of Psychopath, BlueDenim, TreeSaver
>etc and will accept the books in any format they choose to post. We've
>all had to learn how to use calibre to some extent and it seems
>everyone else but me has been using it more than a bit of editing and
>converting. I've never stored books in calibre, as soon as they're
>edited and saved, I delete them.
>
>I've started using Boyo's suggestion of the ISBN plug-in that finds
>the number from the ebooks before updating the metadata. Prior to
>this the results would show two or three versions of the same book,
>now I usually only get one, with all the links consolidated.
>
>I keep track of the quality of books. I use powerdesk which is a
>windows explorer replacement. It has an easy way to copy a list of
>all the files in a directory into the clipboard, which I can paste
>into a text file. I go through all the books I've just done using
>Adobe Digital editions or sumatrapdf reader on my PC and mark next to
>list the quality of the ebook, such as retail, good scan, etc. I've
>been reading about creating custom columns in calibre and that might
>be an easier way to see which books need better versions. Using the
>tag browser (on the left of calibre main screen, it will be easy to
>see which books are marked as "bad scan"
>
>I also used to create epubs using sigil, with details for each author,
>list of books from fantastic fiction and the description for each
>book. Ideal for the people who have ereaders but no computers. Lack
>of time and too many books by some authors means I now just do a doc
>file that can be printed. I've discovered that calibre can now create
>an epub book with the entire contents of my library. I need to set
>it up with the right tags, but if I can get it working this is going
>to be incredibly useful. I really need to start reading the "what's
>new" bit in the update pages.
>
>In another thread, Fisherman mentioned that he saved ebooks with the
>series details included. It was only when I came across metadata
>plugboards that I understood what he meant. I've sat at this PC
>renaming every James Patterson book, when all I needed to do what just
>save.
>
>I've been trying to find a way to display the information stored in
>the IDs box but can't find any reference anywhere. The calibre
>template language is a tad complicated. I've decided to delete the
>mobi-asin numbers from the IDs box, since these seem to be used by
>Amazon to identify ebooks they've sold. The link to the book in
>Amazon uses a different number. I'm making sure amazon, goodreads and
>fantastic fiction are linked but if kobo and barnes and noble aren't
>linked automatically I don't bother adding them.
>
>I'm still having a problem with tags. There's no consistency across a
>series when downloading metadata. Goodreads has too many tags, but
>Fantastic Fiction seems to be think every book's a mystery. I'm
>thinking of just using a few basic ones from Amazon and adding
>nationality of author and location the books are set (if I've read
>them). David Hewson is a British author but the books he writes are
>set in Rome, Denmark and Amsterdam, so I think it's relevant. Some
>people might be surprised when I post the Lee Child books and they
>discover he's English.
>
>I've also started a goodreads account and started linking the books
>I'm doing, it's a work in progress, I need to change british-crime to
>crime-british, the genres important not the nationality. The account
>name is Kie if you want to look at what I'm working on when I get
>time. I'll keep updating it as I add new authors.
>
>So your comments have been extremely useful and it means I can edit
>books series with a bit more purpose, creating a Calibre library for
>reference. When I've completed the 300+ authors I want to do it's
>going to make life easier.
>
>It's going to take a bit longer than I thought to get the first batch
>of authors completed, a lot of the series that I'd already done, now
>have retail versions and metadata downloaded still isn't all that
>accurate. I do about 200 books at a time. I still haven't worked out
>fonts either, getting consistency on size. I've got all the Jeffrey
>Deaver ebooks, but nearly all have weird embedded fonts that don't
>display properly on the Nook or Sony. I read the books in paperback
>(now at a charity shop) and I remember (boring) long lists of evidence
>being repeated regularly with different fonts being used, so I don't
>think I can just delete them.
>
>I should start posting next week in alt.binaries.e-book.flood. I'm
>don't think it's worth posting versions with the title changed since
>this is so easy to do with the metadata plugboard and the stripped
>versions are only for old ereaders which I doubt many newsgroup users
>have. I'll put that as an option in an NFO though.
When I first load a book to one of my Calibre libraries the only thing
I try to insure is correct is the author and title. I check with the
plug in for dupes on a binary basis. I have yet to decide how I can
be sure a particular copy of a book is good without reading it, so
when I read a book and hopefully have a mostly error free copy I run
the metadata download, get the final cover, code the copy as having
been read, and file. I then delete all other copies of the book.
If I haven't read it I have multiple unchecked copies that may or may
not be any good. Until I am ready to actually read the book I really
don't care. The interim format is irrelevant - I convert when
convenient.
It appears library size depends on the machine you use (memory and
speed), and I have not tried any libraries over 40,000 volumes yet. I
have an i5, 3.5 gHz, with 8 gig of memory.
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