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From: hopper <Troll5layer@ABCP.hall.0.fame.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Came thru perfectly via giganews and agent, here
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sammy437 wrote:
>
> hopper <Troll5layer@ABCP.hall.0.fame.invalid> wrote:
>>sammy437 wrote:
>> Came thru perfectly via giganews and agent, here
>
>ahem...
>
>On the face of it, Sammy, one would think we all
>should be taking lessons from you in
>"how to download", given the theme of your
>banner post.
>Ah ha.. but wait, there is more!
>
>You have shown by comments over the past months
>you do care and you do listen, so here goes at
>passing you some information.
>
>In 2004 GN was the "server of choice", and, yes.. I did
>urge many to subscribe to that service, at that time.
>However, NSP business is as dynamic as I am sure
>you have found ISP business, in the past.
>GN no longer holds the position it once did as a
>"preferred server" for that which we (ABCP) do here.
>The server administration has demonstrated
>they are no longer either "safe" to post from or
>indeed 'safe' to admit you have downloaded
>something of Copyright content, using that server.
>The link below is just one of many sob stories from
>users of that service, I include this one because
>of the datestamp. There are many more post 2006.
>http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/r20310040-Interesting-emails-sent-to-usenet-uploaders-using-giganews
>
>Ok.. why the lecture?
>Simple really.
>GN will today allow _anything_ to pass across it servers.
>
>You recall those early <*.avi> files loaded with malware
>which were posted here in ABCP?
>Giganews servers distributed them.
>For more than 8months now GN has allowed the hosting of
>malware (virus, worms and trojans) on their servers in
>the majority of binary groups. To date the Admin has
>refused to cooperate in cleaning this mess up.
>
>Soooo, what I said initially.. in saying servers are
>rejecting Sally's posts, holds true.
>Given the evidence GN servers will host anything.
>
>I have checked across 3 paid subscriptions of mine, and
>two free ones. NONE of them are carrying all of Sallys
>latest attempt at getting these files up.
>What is the prime problem for filters
>on these servers, filters that GN does
>not run?
>The size of the articles, Sammy.
>All of these articles are OBZ - One Big Zip.
>No server -- that is well managed -- under current RFC
>guidelines is going to _ever_ hold posts of the structure Sally has
>used. Sally maxed out _good_ servers very quickly.
>What to do?
>There is only _one_ answer.
>Sally has to learn how to post files, End of story.
>Posts such as you make under your banner rocket do
>not help her, do not help anyone else and long term,
>do not help you.
>
>I trust you can see this.
>
>In closing;
>Usenet parlance describes your post is a "neena post",
>or..
>"hey I got it, so there!".
>
>Fine if you did. What would have been helpful was to
>restructure the post and repost it correctly.
>That would help everyone, including Sally.
>It is obvious Sally believes if she posts something
>she will get something. Whilst that too is not "true",
>it is a place to start in showing her "how to post".
>
>Thanks for your time in listening..
>
>cheers
>Your very welcome Hopper, and Thank You for the info
no worries.. stay safe.. and keep on keeping on :-)
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