On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:15:11 +1000, in alt.binaries.crafts.pictures Pixie <Pixie@AnnWheatley.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:32:00 -0400, mamaT <mamaT@dunno.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:23:02 +1000, hopper
>><Troll5layer@on.de.road.invalid> wrote:
>><<Snip>>
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>>>>
>...
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>>>Something I myself aspire to achieve, one day, but
>>>as yet I experience more spectacular "crash and burn"
>>>results than any level of real proficiency :=D
>>
>But..... like the Phoenix....... off He flies....
>Feathers and ear hair falling everywhere...
>Ever to crash and burn another day....rofl.
>Lucky He has good medical cover.../snicker...
>
.. you just wait, I haint done with you yet :-D
>>>[eg]
>>>"It is the right thing to do, eh".
>>>[eg]
>>>"It is the right thing to do, ay".
>>
>And so flares the fires of another pile of feathers... /grin
>/throws a tin of petrol... a couple of spray cans... just for effect.
>
>Eh? - is the assumption of agreement, regardless of opinion. Akin to
>TIA. You are EXPECTED to agree/comply. The requester is not
>particularly interested if you disagree, they are not listening.
>Hopper's favourite..../grin
>
>Aye? - is asking the question "Do you agree?".... Accepted as wanting
>to know another's opinion....and a willingess to listen to the reply.
>Agreement is optional and the ensuing debate should be expected.
>My favourite.../laff
>
>>>Herself is wrong of course
>>> /ducks
>>
>I am patient..... you just take your time straightening up...
>/fingers twitch on cricket bat....
>
>>>But you get that from them "Southern Bushies" in
>>>our Land Down Under
>>> /rotfL
>>
>It's all about the listening and nothing about the ASSuming.
>/licks fingers.....zzzzzt..... yer ear hairs are still smokin'....
>rofl
>
>>I have to agree with you on this one, although it may in fact be a
>>matter of opinion, it is "Eh" that we use here.
>>
>"Here" being "there".... You can tell He has never set foot out of
>cane country.... /grin
>
>> My pet peeve is to, too and two! How does one become a
>>college graduate and not know the proper use of those 3 tiny words!?!?
>>Even with just my high school knowledge I know the difference! It's
>>primary education right??
>>
>Too much American television, I'm thinking.
>Mine is "two times"..... it's friggin' TWICE ..../grrrr. I nearly died
>when I heard Oprah say it one day.
>Two times are tables learnt in first grade..../rolls eyes.
>
>>.... I am using Agent 5.00/32.1171 and WinRAR
>>3.62. They are working fine for me (as far as I can tell) but am
>>wondering if it would be to my advantage to switch to the releases you
>>have included with the tools? What might the differences be for me?
>>Thanks =-)
>>
>The difference (for me) is I can't help with direct handholding if the
>program is unfamiliar to me. Not all Agent's are the same and I am
>hesitant to totally confuse Newb's with info that has one instruction
>different to what they are looking at. They get confused.
>
>The Agent version in that set is what I use. I can do the
>this-->that-->other pointing because I "see" what they see if they are
>using it too.
>I can't do that for users after version 4 (??). I have observed Herb
>helping those users and the pointing is totally different. Earlier
>users would be lost, the layout is not the same. This is not Herb's
>problem either.
>I will help if I know what they are looking at. Like the Newsbin
>users, I have no idea what they are looking at. They are stressing
>that no one is helping them.... a/ not many know what they are looking
>at and b/ it is a crap program that has been proved to be faulty.
>Lose/lose.
>
>Since my form of helping is trying to guide Newb's through each step,
>as women tend to do so it's clear, I often have to stay silent. I
>don't want to risk confusing them more. They don't tend to take well
>to being told to go look it up and having to read it for themselves.
>
>If I can point directly to what they have to do with the least amount
>of instructions, they usually get brave and explore the program on
>their own later, in their own time. Win/win.
>Marsfel is a success story of this type of help. I know that when
>women ask "what am I doing wrong", they are really just asking "tell
>me what to do - in words of two syllables or less!"
>I can't do that if I don't know what they are looking at.
>
>That is my reason. More technical reasons are that Agent lost a bit of
>its integrity with later versions, but that is for the teckheads to
>fight about.
>
>AYE??!!
>
>/grin
>Pixie :-))
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