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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:04:07 +1000
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mamaT <mamaT@dunno.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:23:02 +1000, hopper
><Troll5layer@on.de.road.invalid> wrote:
><<Snip>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Had a few busy days here but I wanted to stop in and thank you for all
>>>of your help =D
>>>
>>.. no worries, from my corner.
>>[translation]
>>you are very welcome
>>
>>> I'm always willing to learn and you have been very
>>>helpful. Thank you for taking your time to help us newb's!
>>>
>>You know what you have done in that final sentence?
>>No. of course not.. "mind reading", especially "across
>>cultures" is at a skill level at the very top of the pyramid.
>>Something I myself aspire to achieve, one day, but
>>as yet I experience more spectacular "crash and burn"
>>results than any level of real proficiency :=D
>>
>>I am looking at "newb", MamaT. What you have done
>>is introduced a new ^word^ both to my Net interaction
>>and indeed to this froup!
>
>Glad I could be of assistance, even if it was unknowingly! hehe
>
Often it is the case.
/nods
There is a lot to be learned (I find) just from
looking.
Words are often not needed.. especially in the "moonlight".
Sorry that is a PM joke.. someone will "get it".
The essence is true though... look and learn :-)
>>Never have I seen "newb" used here. In fact I don't recall
>>ever seeing it anywhere else in my travels.
>>And I reckon it is a brilliant descriptor for the other
>>level of newbie we get passing through ABCP.
>>Folks who are new to binary Usenet but not new to
>>Usenet itself, folks who are new to digitising but
>>not newbies in general computing and folks
>>who are newbies in sewing artwork but not new to
>>arts 'n' crafts.
>>In the past I have used "n00b" as a reference to many of
>>those presenting for the first time - as someone else other
>>than a total newbie - and done so in a comical aspect
>>moreso than as a "flame".
>>Many however never got the joke<g>
>>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=noob
>>Sharing with you (it seems) an eagerness to do new
>>things well I went and searched "newb" to find the term
>>fits like a glove, to the criteria I was attempting to project
>>when using "n00b".
>>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=newb
>>Sooo.. scratching out an entry in my virtual dictionary is what
>>I am busy doing, changing "n00b" (for ABCP) to that which
>>universally applies and adding "newb" using the descriptor
>>as you have used it.
>As you have suggested it was purely by accident! I "try" not to
>slaughter the English language (the one we are taught here in the US
>anyway). I do however commonly use "shortcut" words while texting, I
>must have thought I was texting while typing that day! HA This old
>mind just isn't what it use to be!
>
>>
>>No small thing is this MamaT, as one Lady here may attest.
>>Herself and I have fought for years over the use of
>>"eh" and "ay" as the acknowledging nod at the end on an
>>enquiring statement.
>>[eg]
>>"It is the right thing to do, eh".
>>[eg]
>>"It is the right thing to do, ay".
>>Herself is wrong of course
>> /ducks
>>But you get that from them "Southern Bushies" in
>>our Land Down Under
>> /rotfL
>>http://www.binsearch.info/?q=Land+down+Under&max=250&adv_age=99&server=2
>I have to agree with you on this one, although it may in fact be a
>matter of opinion, it is "Eh" that we use here.
/nods
We "Ossies" <g> have a different inflection in the voice (accent)
as we use "eh" a number of ways which do cross over into
acknowledgement or question and often as a statement of fact.
Too subtle to convey in text so I leave those be.
But two Aussies "yakkin'" know the differences
and respond in kind.. hence others (looking on) often get
confused (muddled) with what seems to be ambiguous
"chat" AKA... Shitstirring.. it isn't.
>I know how
>frustrating it can be to some people to see the misuse of words
>though! My pet peeve is to, too and two!
>
"lose and loose" are two that make me chuckle in Usenet posts.
Misspelt simple words and even borked parsing I can handle.. that is the
world today.. and it is Global.
But using the wrong word in the poor context fairly gets me
hoppin'../LAFF
>How does one become a
>college graduate and not know the proper use of those 3 tiny words!?!?
>
Many professionals cannot handle English (and I suspect their native language)
at all well.. I think maybe the finer points get swamped in the head full of
information they carry around?
>Even with just my high school knowledge I know the difference! It's
>primary education right??
>
Definitely.
And the errors are why I say "Global" above.
We have been a very irresponsible generation in abusing
Primary education. Probably a result of being caned behind the knees for
a.) not knowing where Saskatchuwon was
and
b.) Misspelling it!
Our Gen went entirely the other way with our kids!!
>
>>
>>You never knew it when you typed in those four
>>characters, had no idea just what you were
>>contributing as "help".. but you have, helped,
>>tremendously so.
>>That is how Usenet works.
>>
>>ta, MamaT
>>[translation] thanks
>Thank you so much for the translations. I'm still learning many of
>them and get quite a chuckle out of some of them. One of my favorites
>(per a friend on Guernsey Island) is when you stay in a hotel there
>they ask you..."Would you like us to knock you up"!! We call it a
>"wake up call" here and getting "knocked up" is slang for getting
>pregnant, BIG difference! I've often wanted to walk in to a hotel and
>ask a nice looking, well built young man if he would like to "knock me
>up" just to see his reaction...(snicker)
>
//LMA0
That's a good one!!
>Okay so back to a few questions a little more on topic if you don't
>mind.... I've always had an inquisitive mind and want to know the
>when, where, how. I've seen it mentioned that you "may" have changed
>the ini file in Agent. I understand in some instances they do need to
>be changed. If in fact you did change it, I am curious as to why?
>What the benefit might be. I am using Agent 5.00/32.1171 and WinRAR
>3.62. They are working fine for me (as far as I can tell) but am
>wondering if it would be to my advantage to switch to the releases you
>have included with the tools? What might the differences be for me?
>Thanks =-)
>
Ok.. first things first.
That <agent.ini> file is of no use to you MamaT.
It is only good for the version of Agent included in the post.
The <agent.exe> and the <agent.ini> are there so as to get everyone on the
same page when help is _needed_.. just to get going.
When newbs have the basics, then it is encouraged they
"do their own thing".
So, where you are able to get any other version of Agent going,
not needing any help, then those people do not need the files, at all.
The tutorials on how to set up the screens may be of some help
in their version as Agent at that level of config is basically still the
same, and ABCP does run a little differently to other binary froups.
Soo a read and a check of some screens would be a wise thing to check out.
And that is what the <agent.ini> file is about. Where we have folks who do
not have English as a first language or folks who can run Word and Paintshop
like a Pro but have never setup a Usenet client, nor know _anything_ about
installing programs and configuring them.. those folks, they are the ones
the <agent.ini> file is delivered for.. a kinda "lock and load" scenario.
Three easy steps kind of thing.
1. Run the exe as an install.
2. Replace the <agent.ini> file.
3. Add your user name and server details
..and start testing.
Many will quickly find the screens in their install and change them to
whatever they want. Obviously this has happened many times here (aBCP)
since the files were first built as the "noise" from...
" I cant get this thing to work" has dropped considerably.
As you know there are dozens of ways to set stuff up.
What I did was to sort out what does work for ABCP.. build an install
around those parameters and carve out the <agent.ini> file so as to have a
start that did not require people to register the program.
Look at the recent debacle with Newsbin as an example?
Folks paid that guy money, the tool did not work.. and do they get a refund??
Not on your Nelly!
So.. the way I thought was.. "here is a free 'old version' to stat with, and when
you get going - maybe six months - the option to purchase an upgrade is there".
From memory I think the tutorials actually say that.. ummmm
As to WinRaR?
If nobody is questioning your posts as to unpacking..?.. then leave your WinRar
install alone, leave it be.
The minute someone does post "Waaaah your post is corrupt" and no
one else seconds it.. then point _them_ to the version posted.
IF OTOH there are a number of knowing folk pointing at your posts
all of a sudden then it is likely one of two things (for ABCP only)..
1. the machine is running other programs when packing archives.
Some here like to watch TV while they are building 25MB uploads!
2. the install of WinRar is borked.
The tutorials discuss WinRaR in depth, The reason being there are two
prime problems in ABCP.
Splitting design files archives(folders of)..
Splitting the archive at posting time.
These are two very different things.. with different actions required.
And the resulting misunderstanding when packing is the main workload
for helpers here in trying to redirect folks to what works.
Currently there are four posts to the group very few will ever see.
Once upon a time I used to grab these and repost them.
I gave up on that 'incentive'. I have the files so the posts just float on,
many are none the wiser.
Packing for Usenet is a difficult concept to grasp as it is entirely different
to what one would do when sending eMail attachments.
Most of us helper folk understand this confusion.
Hope you haven't nodded off <g>
cheerio
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